Celebrating the 40th anniversary of Return of the Jedi

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Daveym

Subj: Re: Well, in fairness...
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 05:09:47 pm EDT
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 03:56:43 pm EDT

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> A sorceror will own a team of heroes 10/10 usually for that very reason, they are effectively warping reality and no one outside of another sorceror or enchantment can possibly answer such an assault.
> > Thors hammer for example weighs not so much that you or i can't lift it, but thanks to the enchatment put on it no one unworthy can begin to do so. Ditto for the Darkhold - a book of Black Magic so powerful it resists any & all attempt to destroy it.
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> Again, thats not true. Take a non magic user more powerful than the wizard who enchanted the item or whatever and the enchantment will most likely not resist the assault. Think Galactus/Celestial vs juggernaut or thor Or Darkseid vs Mordru as seen in the Great darkness saga. Non-magic OWN big time.
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Darkseid is borne of the Old Gods and the Source, of course he's going to be a bit above any sorceror for similar reasons The Spectre is!
The Spectre actually fought Darkseid and annihilated him, he's an aspect of God almighty and closer to the source than Darkseid is And Both are a lot closer to God and the source than Doctor Fate or his Ilk.... even minor sorceror Ramban was able to battle the spectre once by tapping into the same power he does.

As to you're idea magic doesn't exist... well yeah whatever. \:\-\( Going by that logic I should be able to throw the Darkhold into an industrial shredder. Superman-Prime should be able to go up to Mjolnir and lift that sucker with no sweat. Firestorm should be able to beat Doctor Fate as he's a high level transmuter who's power is 'magic'... right? \:\-p


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> Depend if they are potent enought transmutters to manipulate adamantium. It is also possible for ultron to devellop forcefields against this kind of attack (I would) or simply calibrate his own molecular rearanger to counter any attempt by other transmuter. The possibilities are endless.... its pure "magic" \:\-p
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Ultrons molecular rearanger is a piece of tech, as he is. Should be able to be mimiced by a transmuter like Sersi as they manipulate matter on an atomic scale and are expert at it. Theoretically....

"LOL ...LMAO...*wink*... Guffaw... *sigh*..." (etc etc...)

...Oh, Did i say lol BTW? *rhe*


> As to you're idea magic doesn't exist... well yeah whatever. \:\-\( Going by that logic I should be able to throw the Darkhold into an industrial shredder. Superman-Prime should be able to go up to Mjolnir and lift that sucker with no sweat. Firestorm should be able to beat Doctor Fate as he's a high level transmuter who's power is 'magic'... right? \:\-p
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I think he has a good point. A long time ago telepathy would have been considered a magical feat, yet we have no problem with Xavier, a guy whose power is based in science, doing it. Similarly, Scarlet Witch's genetic anomalies allow her to perform magical feats. When it comes to things like extra dimensions, time manipulation, and a number of others, science is just getting to the point of creating theories for these. However, long ago this would just be chalked up to magic. We've seen examples of technology countering or performing magic, so maybe magic really is just some form of extradimensional science that they don't understand yet. All of our technology would have been considered magic a thousand years ago because the theories behind it had not been developed. Try to explain to somebody in the 15th century that an atom bomb is not magic.

If magic isn't some extradimensional science then what is it? A normal human like Strange can learn it, so what makes it so special? Because it relates to the mind and soul rather than biology? Who says there won't be a scientific basis for the soul one day? I think us calling some things magic is no different than any of our ancestors doing it.


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