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ODH

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Would Be Watcher

Subj: You are wasting your time.
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 05:10:38 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Well, in fairness...
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 02:42:06 pm EDT

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> That is a very typical response from a scientist. But it does not alter the fact Science has no answer to the cause & effect of magic.
> Even advanced Alien tech like the Quantum Bands or Power ring is also know to be powerless against magic .
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I am not a scientist, I almost always prefer fantastic settings over sci-fi ones and I strongly disagree. As you already know ;-p. There are degrees of magic and technology. Of course if you compare Mordru's magical achievement to 10 000 BC. technological achiement I can see your point. Take a rabit puller(figure of speech of course) vs an onmipotant alien civilization and you have the complete opposite result. You assume that ALL sorcerer are able to do anything. No, like sciencetific advancement they learn to achieve greater and greater control over the universe.

The weakest sorcerer might simply be able to change the color of his hat by sacrificing 1000 bulls on a bisextile full moon of april while a guy like modru can travel time/dimension and transmute matter/energy. Same for technology. Fire and wheel up to bio-engineering omnipotant life form, traveling time/dimension , transmute matter and energy at will.


A sorceror will own a team of heroes 10/10 usually for that very reason, they are effectively warping reality and no one outside of another sorceror or enchantment can possibly answer such an assault.
> Thors hammer for example weighs not so much that you or i can't lift it, but thanks to the enchatment put on it no one unworthy can begin to do so. Ditto for the Darkhold - a book of Black Magic so powerful it resists any & all attempt to destroy it.
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Again, thats not true. Take a non magic user more powerful than the wizard who enchanted the item or whatever and the enchantment will most likely not resist the assault. Think Galactus/Celestial vs juggernaut or thor Or Darkseid vs Mordru as seen in the Great darkness saga. Non-magic OWN big time.





Adamantium can be manipulated by a molecular rearranger, Ultron carries one as standard and it has been the key to beating him as it is what allows him to keep mobile. So in theory a matter transmuter like Sersi or Firestorm should be able to own him utterly *rhe*
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> Never happen of course.... \:\-\(
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Depend if they are potent enought transmutters to manipulate adamantium. It is also possible for ultron to devellop forcefields against this kind of attack (I would) or simply calibrate his own molecular rearanger to counter any attempt by other transmuter. The possibilities are endless.... its pure "magic" \:\-p


Daveym has a specific hierarchy in his mind:

1. Gods are at the top because, well, they're gods and certainly nothing is greater than gods and magic, especially anything that comes from a human-base.
2. Aliens are next because they are, well, aliens, and certainly aliens are far superior to humans or human-based characters.

But don't worry, when you become a true Watcher, you will become at least #2 on the list. Unless, of course, you are a human-based Watcher. I wonder where you will stand in Daveym's hierachy then?


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> > That is a very typical response from a scientist. But it does not alter the fact Science has no answer to the cause & effect of magic.
> > Even advanced Alien tech like the Quantum Bands or Power ring is also know to be powerless against magic .
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> I am not a scientist, I almost always prefer fantastic settings over sci-fi ones and I strongly disagree. As you already know ;-p. There are degrees of magic and technology. Of course if you compare Mordru's magical achievement to 10 000 BC. technological achiement I can see your point. Take a rabit puller(figure of speech of course) vs an onmipotant alien civilization and you have the complete opposite result. You assume that ALL sorcerer are able to do anything. No, like sciencetific advancement they learn to achieve greater and greater control over the universe.
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> The weakest sorcerer might simply be able to change the color of his hat by sacrificing 1000 bulls on a bisextile full moon of april while a guy like modru can travel time/dimension and transmute matter/energy. Same for technology. Fire and wheel up to bio-engineering omnipotant life form, traveling time/dimension , transmute matter and energy at will.
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> A sorceror will own a team of heroes 10/10 usually for that very reason, they are effectively warping reality and no one outside of another sorceror or enchantment can possibly answer such an assault.
> > Thors hammer for example weighs not so much that you or i can't lift it, but thanks to the enchatment put on it no one unworthy can begin to do so. Ditto for the Darkhold - a book of Black Magic so powerful it resists any & all attempt to destroy it.
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> Again, thats not true. Take a non magic user more powerful than the wizard who enchanted the item or whatever and the enchantment will most likely not resist the assault. Think Galactus/Celestial vs juggernaut or thor Or Darkseid vs Mordru as seen in the Great darkness saga. Non-magic OWN big time.
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> Adamantium can be manipulated by a molecular rearranger, Ultron carries one as standard and it has been the key to beating him as it is what allows him to keep mobile. So in theory a matter transmuter like Sersi or Firestorm should be able to own him utterly *rhe*
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> > Never happen of course.... \:\-\(
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> Depend if they are potent enought transmutters to manipulate adamantium. It is also possible for ultron to devellop forcefields against this kind of attack (I would) or simply calibrate his own molecular rearanger to counter any attempt by other transmuter. The possibilities are endless.... its pure "magic" \:\-p
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