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Subj: Re: "A cosmic consciousness that contains Eternity itself. And Eternity... is heavy" sounds pretty much like the "Universe" to me
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:18:18 pm EDT

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> > "Atlas, along with his brother Menoetius, sided with the Titans in their war against the Olympians, the Titanomachy. His brothers Prometheus and Epimetheus weighed the odds and betrayed the other Titans by forming an alliance with the Olympians. When the Titans were defeated, many of them (including Menoetius) were confined to Tartarus, but Zeus condemned Atlas to stand at the western edge of Gaia, the Earth and hold up Ouranos, the Sky on his shoulders, to prevent the two from resuming their primordial embrace"
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> > He supported the weight of the Heavens. A cosmic being, even if we take in consideration what his role in myth was. And in some art, he is depicted holding a sphere representing the stars and constellations.
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> So the planet Earth has a "western edge," huh? I guess it's still flat...

And that would change what exactly? The Earth was only where he needed to step in.

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> And Uranus isn't the HEAVENS -- it's the Sky. The Greeks felt that the Sky was heaven -- it isn't literal.

Ancient texts both allure it as "Heavens" as well as "sky". Art representations show Atlas holding a celestial sphere with stars and constellations.

Its a cosmic feat and was always meant to be.

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> And in the Marvel Universe Gaea isn't actually THE EARTH.

She is the heart of the planet, as aknowleged in "Defenders". Moreso, the terms "Gaea" and "Earth" are as much as interchangable as "Heavens" and "Sky". They basically refer to the same thing.

Wheter Atlas hefted a realm of stars and planets on his back, or the actual weight of a cosmic being, its still remains one thing: A classic over the top feat display of strenght and stamina.

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Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · JesusFan · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 06:32:36 am EDT
- Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · bd2999 · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:36:14 pm EDT
- Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 02:34:49 pm EDT
  - How much did the Spectre weigh? nt. (no text) · Amor Fati · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:26:10 pm EDT
    - Who knows? And it's why lifting the specter is not a usable feat. (no text) · Would be Watcher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:58:51 pm EDT
    - Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. (no text) · rc · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:34:01 pm EDT
      - Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:37:18 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · rc · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:39:40 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:42:11 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · rc · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:45:34 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:49:58 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · rc · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:55:06 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · Primetime. · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:06:51 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · rc · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 08:07:47 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:58:23 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · atrimus · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:40:58 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:53:43 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:00:01 pm EDT
        
        agreed... · Braugi · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:02:56 pm EDT
        
        Re: Couldn't have said it better. (no text) · atrimus · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:11:06 pm EDT
        
        Re: Less than the Moon, in my opinion -- seeing as how he crashed on it and it remained in orbit and intact. · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:02:42 pm EDT
        
        Twizzlers · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:19:13 pm EDT
        umm...you do know that beams often give out... · Braugi · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:06:07 pm EDT
        
        Re: umm...you do know that beams often give out... · Destroyer · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:41:10 pm EDT
        Re: umm...you do know that beams often give out... · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:07:35 pm EDT
        
        I never said anything about this feat in particular, but was responding... · Braugi · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:28:46 pm EDT
        Re: umm...you do know that beams often give out... · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 06:06:21 pm EDT
        Re: umm...you do know that beams often give out... · Destroyer · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:42:36 pm EDT
        
        the SKY isn't tangible. nt · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:54:51 pm EDT
        
        Myth = fable, Comic book = made up storytelling. You = real world physics. One does not compute with the others (nt) · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 06:01:14 pm EDT
        
        That's beside the point... · Would be Watcher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 08:05:17 pm EDT
        
        No, its not. · Olympian · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 03:12:51 am EDT
        
        People of Marvel earth... · Would be Watcher · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 07:04:29 am EDT
        
        Oh, for the love of.... · Olympian · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 11:56:42 am EDT
        
        No.... · Would be Watcher · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:15:08 pm EDT
        
        So do you validate Superman's heralded "contained a black hole" feat since... · Primetime. · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 03:04:50 pm EDT
        
        Black holes · rc · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 03:57:35 pm EDT
        
        Re: Black holes · J · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 04:39:27 pm EDT
        
        Oprah · ArtTeacher · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 01:01:31 am EDT
        
        Re: Oprah · rc · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 11:40:36 am EDT
        
        Re: Black holes · rc · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 09:57:22 pm EDT
        
        Re: No.... · Olympian · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:29:13 pm EDT
        
        I'll do my best (no text) · Would be Watcher · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:36:06 pm EDT
        
        Exactly. (no text) · SuperJ · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 09:59:25 am EDT
        
        Re: umm...you do know that beams often give out... · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:17:39 pm EDT
        Re: umm...you do know that beams often give out... · Amor Fati · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:13:29 pm EDT
        
        Great point. And razor sharp. *N/T* · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:22:22 pm EDT
        Re: umm...you do know that beams often give out... · atrimus · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:17:16 pm EDT
        
        Another good point! *N/T* · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:22:48 pm EDT
    - Re: How much did the Spectre weigh? nt. · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:32:26 pm EDT
      - Eternity is a measurement of time, there is no physical reference NT · Zeeder · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 10:06:06 am EDT
      - Re: How much did the Spectre weigh? nt. · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:45:19 pm EDT
      - Re: "A cosmic consciousness that contains Eternity itself. And Eternity... is heavy" sounds pretty much like the "Universe" to me · atrimus · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:47:49 pm EDT
        
        Thats how i see it. Either accept all of the kind, or none. · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:40:56 pm EDT
        Re: "A cosmic consciousness that contains Eternity itself. And Eternity... is heavy" sounds pretty much like the "Universe" to me · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:53:39 pm EDT
        
        Re: "A cosmic consciousness that contains Eternity itself. And Eternity... is heavy" sounds pretty much like the "Universe" to me · Destroyer · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:47:27 pm EDT
        Re: "A cosmic consciousness that contains Eternity itself. And Eternity... is heavy" sounds pretty much like the "Universe" to me · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:58:02 pm EDT
        
        Re: "A cosmic consciousness that contains Eternity itself. And Eternity... is heavy" sounds pretty much like the "Universe" to me · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:04:52 pm EDT
        
        Re: "A cosmic consciousness that contains Eternity itself. And Eternity... is heavy" sounds pretty much like the "Universe" to me · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:18:18 pm EDT
  - Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:05:37 pm EDT
  - Indeed, to think he literally held up the universe is just absurd (no text) · Hatman · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 02:54:53 pm EDT
- Wait! What did he do? · autochron · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 01:52:28 pm EDT
  - Re: Wait! What did he do? · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 02:10:56 pm EDT
- Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · atrimus · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:36:02 pm EDT
  - Now this... · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:40:24 pm EDT
    - I don't agree completly... · Would be Watcher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:25:19 pm EDT
      - Re: I don't agree completly... · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:01:41 pm EDT
        
        I think you don't get it or worse don't want to get it... · Would be Watcher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 10:54:26 pm EDT
        
        Likewise, and if you had read what i already wrote about this, you likely would complicate matters so much :) · Olympian · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 03:27:42 am EDT
        
        I see it's don't want to... · Would be Watcher · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 07:37:44 am EDT
        
        *shakes head* why do even read comics at all, Watcher? · Olympian · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 11:59:29 am EDT
        
        Lets not mix things up... · Would be Watcher · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:25:38 pm EDT
        
        Re: Lets not mix things up... · Olympian · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:34:04 pm EDT
        
        Sure no problem (no text) · Would be Watcher · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:37:05 pm EDT
- No. He's not "now" stronger...he always has been--we're just now seeing proof. LOL! *N/T* · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:35:16 pm EDT
- Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:53:53 am EDT
- It's an impossible to answer question unless you volontary decide to fill the blank with something (no text) · Would be Watcher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:44:17 am EDT
- Assuming he literally benched the universe, and limiting your analysis to that feat only, then, yes, he is far more powerful than Superman (and everyone else). (no text) · rc · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:20:21 am EDT
- It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Braugi · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:05:50 am EDT
  - I came to a Hercules thread and a WW fight broke out. LOL! *N/T* · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:41:32 pm EDT
    - As commander of the Amazons, J is always ready! (nt) · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:30:42 pm EDT
  - Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 11:50:55 am EDT
    - Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Poltargyst · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 11:49:24 pm EDT
    - Don't want to get involved in this, But.... · Daveym · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:22:51 pm EDT
      - Re: Don't want to get involved in this, But.... · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:21:59 pm EDT
        
        Re: Don't want to get involved in this, But.... · Daveym · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:55:55 pm EDT
        
        Re: Don't want to get involved in this, But.... · Fifthchild · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:01:55 am EDT
        Re: Don't want to get involved in this, But.... · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 06:15:15 pm EDT
      - completely agree... · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:29:17 pm EDT
    - Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Primetime. · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 02:00:15 pm EDT
      - Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 02:29:33 pm EDT
        
        Yes, lets read this down shall we? · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:08:49 pm EDT
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Primetime. · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 02:37:08 pm EDT
        
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 02:55:14 pm EDT
        
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Primetime. · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:20:09 pm EDT
        
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:36:04 pm EDT
        
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:53:14 pm EDT
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Primetime. · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:03:18 pm EDT
        
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:09:01 pm EDT
        
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Primetime · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 07:04:28 pm EDT
        Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:08:20 pm EDT
    - Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:34:15 pm EDT
    - according to JLA/Avengers, She Hulk and Wonder Woman can take down Surtur... · Braugi · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:01:22 pm EDT
      - Re: according to JLA/Avengers, She Hulk and Wonder Woman can take down Surtur... · J · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:29:27 pm EDT
        
        Re: according to JLA/Avengers, She Hulk and Wonder Woman can take down Surtur... · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:36:24 pm EDT
  - Re: It is very difficult to compare companies, because you have to base · paolo · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 11:25:07 am EDT
- Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · Bootch · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 07:30:56 am EDT
  - We all know that the DC Universe is heavier than Marvel Universe! n/t · VaderTime · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 01:18:03 pm EDT
  - Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · Destroyer · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 10:04:12 am EDT
    - What? That's absurd... · autochron · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 01:59:27 pm EDT
      - Remember, kids, PC Superman destroying a solar system with a sneeze = awesome, Herc's feat = ridiculous. :) *N/T* · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 04:58:21 pm EDT
        
        As far as I'm concerned they are both ridiculous (no text) · Would be Watcher · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:28:34 pm EDT
        Herc doesn't seem so silly anymore... · autochron · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 12:12:52 am EDT
      - And THAT is the question! · Would be Watcher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:30:29 pm EDT
        
        Re: And THAT is the question! · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:37:54 pm EDT
        
        Well it sure was stupid back then... · Would be Watcher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 10:33:26 pm EDT
        
        Re: Well it sure was stupid back then... · Olympian · Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 03:35:29 am EDT
      - Re: What? That's absurd... · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 02:07:34 pm EDT
    - Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · Bootch · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 11:32:13 am EDT
      - Re: Is Marvel Hercues Now Physically Stronger Than Top tiered DC Beings? · Destroyer · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:16:03 pm EDT
  - Bootch is in shock and denial. Quick, Maestro, where are the painkillers? · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 09:47:58 am EDT
    - LOL! Bravo. Good show, chap! :) *N/T* · ArtTeacher · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:33:33 pm EDT
    - Shock and denial about what? · Bootch · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 11:30:00 am EDT
      - Re: Shock and denial about what? · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 12:38:17 pm EDT
        
        About denial... · Bootch · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 03:28:38 pm EDT
        
        Re: About denial... · Olympian · Tue Sep 23, 2008 at 05:29:21 pm EDT