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> > > Nevertheless, we know from JLA v. Avengers that Thor is roughly equal to Supes, and that Herc is roughly equal to Thor. To the extent WW is as strong as Supes, she's as strong as Thor and Herc.
> > Can I just point out that actually Thor w/hammer is as 'strong' as Superman, take that hammer out of the JLAvengers fight and i think he'd have lasted all of two minutes.
> > Ditto Wonder Woman was seen to be stronger/superior to Herc, he ends up on the floor unable to break her grip - it's not as if he put himself there now is it...
> > ...And Now back to work.
> Except that Thor has repeatedly eschewed his hammer during battle with the Hulk, and come out no worse the wear for it. Indeed, if I recall correctly, he didn't use his hammer to any effect during his battle with Supes, and still almost beat him.
Well considering from what we saw his very first (attempted) blow against superman was with the Hammer I must disagree with you. Like wise Seeing Superman sent hurtling thru the Forest like a rocket & trailed by lightning FX, a hammer spinning Thor in hot pursuit, is indicative of major Hammer usage. To Cap it all his final move is to put everything into one hoped for finishing blow from a charged mjolnir... Seems like he definitly needed the Hammer in this fight, To me anyway.