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Olympian

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Would be Watcher

Location: Canada
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Subj: Re: Oh i agree..
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 06:47:43 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Oh i agree..
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 06:39:29 pm EDT (Viewed 44 times)


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> > > > > > > > Nevertheless, we know from JLA v. Avengers that Thor is roughly equal to Supes, and that Herc is roughly equal to Thor. To the extent WW is as strong as Supes, she's as strong as Thor and Herc.
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> > > > > > > Can I just point out that actually Thor w/hammer is as 'strong' as Superman, take that hammer out of the JLAvengers fight and i think he'd have lasted all of two minutes.
> > > > > > > Ditto Wonder Woman was seen to be stronger/superior to Herc, he ends up on the floor unable to break her grip - it's not as if he put himself there now is it...
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> > > > > > > ...And Now back to work. \:\)
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> > > > > > Except that Thor has repeatedly eschewed his hammer during battle with the Hulk, and come out no worse the wear for it. Indeed, if I recall correctly, he didn't use his hammer to any effect during his battle with Supes, and still almost beat him.
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> > > > > Well considering from what we saw his very first (attempted) blow against superman was with the Hammer I must disagree with you. Like wise Seeing Superman sent hurtling thru the Forest like a rocket & trailed by lightning FX, a hammer spinning Thor in hot pursuit, is indicative of major Hammer usage. To Cap it all his final move is to put everything into one hoped for finishing blow from a charged mjolnir... Seems like he definitly needed the Hammer in this fight, To me anyway.
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> > > > Like Kal needed his HV to stop Thor.
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> > > I really don't agree he needed it but I'll leave it there because it would start yet another sub thread.
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> > I dont see how he didnt. It was his major gambit to hurt Thor, in a moment, where he cleary didnt had any advantage.
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> A gambit? What gambit? they had little space to render the fight and I imagine since they decide Thor had to go down that they had to give him some good hits before he was going on the floor. What change really changed when superman used his HV was his temper. A blast of HV or a punch from superman when he decided to stop being a boyscout would have been just as efficient. Of that I have no doubt. If you remember he can crank it up 2 slice higher than thor in that story.

Ah, so Superman was holding back, even tho, it was made clear everyone was figthing for real? I wouldnt also claim anything in regards to the creators porpuse, behind every hit. Itsmore logical to assume, that they had Kal use the HV, because it was more effective to weaken Thor, when a punch before wasent enough.

Now, a punch after the HV? An even more efficient combo. Especially when your opponent is gazing with surprise at you.

Was theyr porpuse to show that Superman is physically stronger? I belive so. But to the extent of "losing in 2 minutes" like some posters make it seem?

No.

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> > > I also see where you want to go but the idea remains: Thor hitting power with the hammer is no greater than hulk or superman who are weaponless so it stands to reason he doesn't pack as much without it.
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> > Except he had Kal by the ropes, before the HV.
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> He forced him to switch gear if it's what you mean. I would have expect no less from Thor. He is Thor after all. But tells me what THAT has to do with what I've written above?

Its got to have something to do with your past post, im not drunk yet.

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