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Subj: Re: Probobly Not. [Hulk #6]
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 05:59:18 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: Probobly Not. [Hulk #6]
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 05:35:06 pm EDT (Viewed 40 times)


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> > > > Well, it took both Thor & Green Hulk to tag team Red Hulk, so I think it should be profoundly obvious that since Hulk's beaten Hercules before, and that Red Hulk has beaten Hulk the one time they went solo, as well as he beat Thor the one time they went solo, then logic dictates that Red Hulk would beat both of the Hercules' too.
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> > > *The Hulk has never beaten Hercules.
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> > > *Red Hulk admits Thor had him the 2nd Fight.
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> > > > Thor's nearly beat Superman in that one crossover. Superman CLEARLY had his way with DCU's Hercules, which means that Thor would too.
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> > > Thor "nearly beat Superman" is very debatable.
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> > > > Thus, Red Hulk > both DCU/MU Hercules'
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> > > I'd say no. The logic set up in the latest issue is that Red Hulk has a limited period of power-up, he has several mintues or less where he has a maximum powerlevel whereon he burns out.
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> > Interesting that this is never stated in the book.
> Have you actually read the same book?
> If you read the books storyline the Red Hulk crushed both Thor & the Green Hulk previously. This issue he again crushes the Green Hulk who is saved by Thor who then batters him more or less to his knees, but Thor hands over to the Green Hulk who lets the Red Hulk beat on him to the point he overloads with heat/energy and loses strength... allowing the Green Hulk to get the KO.
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> Where is the innacuracy in that rundown?

The innacuracy is that it is something that you made up. Nothing in the book states that he "loses strength" or is "overloaded". If this is clarified later, fine, but for now it is pure conjecture. What is stated is that Hulk is "getting stronger". Thus Hulk "getting stronger" is what allowed Hulk to get the KO. Plus, Hulk's reasoning for not believing that Thor could beat Rhulk is because he believed that Rhulk would get stronger as he got madder like he himself does. A-bomb corrects him by saying that Rhulk isn't like him and doesn't get stronger as he gets madder. Instead he gets hotter. Based on this, Hulk uses the strategy of accepting the pounding by Rhulk until he gains enough strength to KO Rhulk as he did.

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> > On the other hand, it is clearly shown and expressed that if Green Hulk is pounded on long enough, his strength will jump and surpose the strength of whoever is pounding on him.
> And it is also very clearly "shown and expressed" that the Green Hulk was no match whatsoever for the Red and needed a save by Thor and A-bomb then states as fact that Thor can't beat Red Hulk... yet two minutes later Red Hulk is stating Thor had him on the ropes and could have killed him \(\!\)
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> ...So which version is it....

What's your point? Thor had Rhulk on the ropes via a surprise attack that Thor never gave him a chance to recover from. The two were prepared for each other in the first fight. Hulk was getting just as beat down in the second fight. The difference is that he had the chance to increase his strength.

And again, Hulk states that Thor can't beat Rhulk because he mistakenly believed that Rhulk would grow stronger with anger like he does. When he realized his error, he sees the advantage he needed.

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> > > While I hold DC Herc as stronger than his Marvel counterpart
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> > And you base this on what?
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> Based on Reading DC Hercules twice supporting the weight of Paradise Island on his back with little effort.

And we just read Marvel Herc holding up the heavens. We saw him holding Manhattan together. We saw him tow Manhattan Island.

> Marvel Herc has nothing remotely as physical as that on record.

You are wrong on this count.

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> > > the two of them working together can keep the Red Hulk busy long enough for that Burn-out period to arrive i believe, both are Gods with a vast stamina and let's remember RH beat Thor partly by bludgeoning him with his own hammer not just hand to hand.... Two Hercules should be able to do it.
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