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Daveym 
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Olympian

Subj: Re: Probobly Not. [Hulk #6]
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 06:02:26 pm EDT (Viewed 48 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Probobly Not. [Hulk #6]
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 05:48:17 pm EDT



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> > > > > Well, it took both Thor & Green Hulk to tag team Red Hulk, so I think it should be profoundly obvious that since Hulk's beaten Hercules before, and that Red Hulk has beaten Hulk the one time they went solo, as well as he beat Thor the one time they went solo, then logic dictates that Red Hulk would beat both of the Hercules' too.
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> > > > *The Hulk has never beaten Hercules.
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> > > > *Red Hulk admits Thor had him the 2nd Fight.
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> > > > > Thor's nearly beat Superman in that one crossover. Superman CLEARLY had his way with DCU's Hercules, which means that Thor would too.
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> > > > Thor "nearly beat Superman" is very debatable.
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> > > > > Thus, Red Hulk > both DCU/MU Hercules'
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> > > > I'd say no. The logic set up in the latest issue is that Red Hulk has a limited period of power-up, he has several mintues or less where he has a maximum powerlevel whereon he burns out.
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> > > Interesting that this is never stated in the book.
> > Have you actually read the same book?
> > If you read the books storyline the Red Hulk crushed both Thor & the Green Hulk previously. This issue he again crushes the Green Hulk who is saved by Thor who then batters him more or less to his knees, but Thor hands over to the Green Hulk who lets the Red Hulk beat on him to the point he overloads with heat/energy and loses strength... allowing the Green Hulk to get the KO.
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> > Where is the innacuracy in that rundown?
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> > > On the other hand, it is clearly shown and expressed that if Green Hulk is pounded on long enough, his strength will jump and surpose the strength of whoever is pounding on him.
> > And it is also very clearly "shown and expressed" that the Green Hulk was no match whatsoever for the Red and needed a save by Thor and A-bomb then states as fact that Thor can't beat Red Hulk... yet two minutes later Red Hulk is stating Thor had him on the ropes and could have killed him \(\!\)
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> > ...So which version is it....
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> > > > While I hold DC Herc as stronger than his Marvel counterpart
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> > > And you base this on what?
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> > Based on Reading DC Hercules twice supporting the weight of Paradise Island on his back with little effort.
> > Marvel Herc has nothing remotely as physical as that on record.
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> This make little sense.
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> DC Hercules actually strained alot when he held Paraside Island, at least one of the two times. He stated it clean.
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Because the 1st time he'd just been freed from a millenia or two of imprisonment!

> Marvel Hercules towed Manhattan,
And As J once pointed out the narrative makes clear this is to be taken with a large grain of salt...

> held momentarily the same after WWH (and only pretend to have problems, to have Namora kiss him underwater, as showed inthelast ish of "incredile Hercules) and held New York together, until the chains gave in.
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No idea what you're talking about with this or the chains... the only thing i can thing of is during his battle with Zom where he supports a beam to prevent a city block caving in? I expect Herc is actually embellishing that particular showing to impress Namora...

> At least two of these are cleary on a higher note than Paraside Island. Manhattan is bigger and more populated. So is New york.
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See above - it never happened, unless you can prove me faulty here....?

> Out of that you still have Marvel Hercules armwrestling Thor to a standstill, with the narration claiming that said force at its peak, was enough to set Earth off its own orbit
Sure, whatever. (Those sixties Thor stories were like that...))

> (the strain also created weather changes from the start and end of the armwrestle, to boot, punching down dimensional doors, trowing objects out of Earths orbit, and im not counting any "mythological" nature feat...because i dont even need to.
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> Figthing record? DCU Hercules got 4/5 good showings at best.
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He's been around 40 years so I'd expect him to. Dc Hercules has been around for maybe 20 on and off and a background bit player....

> Marvel Hercules? It doesnt even begin to compare how many more hes got. There is a consistancy regarding his level, that you dont have with the DCU counterpart.
Marvel Herc is very consistent i agree, But just because DC Herc doesn't have the volume of appearances doesn't mean he's a feeb - he's always been shown as = Wonder Woman, able to shrug off Supergirl and Superman and is still the Heracles of classic Myth.



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> > > > the two of them working together can keep the Red Hulk busy long enough for that Burn-out period to arrive i believe, both are Gods with a vast stamina and let's remember RH beat Thor partly by bludgeoning him with his own hammer not just hand to hand.... Two Hercules should be able to do it.
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