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Subj: No responses to my other examples? So many feel Thor is Superman's inferior, and yet....
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 07:59:16 pm EDT (Viewed 71 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Thor himself stated he initially fights to the level of his opponents, so as to bridle his unfettered might so he don't kill unnecessarily.....
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 07:50:52 pm EDT (Viewed 75 times)

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> Thor simply holds back against his opponent because he doesn't want to take a life. (See Thor#305). However, when he decides to end someone’s existence he could do it with just a single blow. (See Thor #374), where he killed the Super-Strong Mutant Block-Buster with just a single blow from Mjolnir, and not even a really awesome blow at that.
> He holds back because he's honorable, unlike evil villains who really don't care if they slay humans by the scores, hundreds, thousands, millions to achieve their devious ends.
And i agree with that completely, i've said it myself - But at some point you have to accept that even with that self-limitation going on he will meet such powerful opponents while on earth that holding back is not a requirement. Hyperion is a good example - in their 2nd encounter Thor floors him with a hammer shot and tells him that last time he pulled his shot as he didn't know what he could survive. Now it's fair to say that if Thor decides to kill with a hammer shot he'd probobly do it with most opponents!
But move it to the Superman example and recall Thor already met Superman in Metropolis earlier on and must have got a pretty good assesment of his ability right there. Further looking at both character they are good decent people who will meet an opponent on equal terms, if Superman rolled out superspeed Thor would roll out a hammer stunt to try and equalise, if Thor tried a Hammer stunt Superman would use a speedblitz and so on... neither will ever fight to kill as a rule however so it is still perfectly possible to see a Thor going allout on an opponent but draw the line at killing.
By the end of that fight Thor is clearly a mess, he's exhausted, he's battered and he's putting his all into that one last swing. He had to have some crystal clear idea at that point of just how powerful superman was and what it would take to finish him, yet he still underestimated him completely!

my examples above show several instances where in fact, Thor is Superman's superior in several things.

And lets face it, Thor's got WAY less weaknesses than Superman does. Just what is out there that specifically weakens Asgardians? Nothing. Superman's weakened by Magic, which Thor isn't. Superman's weakened by Kryptonite, yet there isn't some mineral out there we're aware of that's universally repugnant to Asgardians. Superman's weakened by Red Sun energy, yet Thor's capable of wielding ANY powersource through Mjolnir.

I've directed several examples above in this thread, all to show that Thor isn't some lackey to Superman, cause you said he can't even defeat the Superman clones, yet I can show Superman's abilities in several instances fall FAR below Thor's. I've even shown Thor out-classing Superman in strength feats, speed feats, the list goes on.

The sheer fact of the matter is that: Superman and Thor are close, but Thor's simply above Superman. With strength, speed, and other feats. Even Superman's highest end feats ahve been surpassed by Thor.

Thor is to Marvel what Superman is to DC. The golden child.

I'll call them equal for arguments sake, but really, I've more than amply proven Thor's highest feats and abilities outstrip Superman's.

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