Comic Battle - No they were not. Top Tier is Thor, Surfer, Superman.

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Subj: No they were not. Top Tier is Thor, Surfer, Superman.
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:22:47 am EDT (Viewed 169 times)

Reply Subj: In the case of Red Hulk, it's purely bad writing. His initial showings were really above top tier, and, now...
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He did NOTHING to indicate that he was ABOVE that level. He beak Thor with a tactical plan and Thor was obviously holding back. The next time, Thor creamed him. It was not bad writing, it's impatience on the part of the comic book reading community.

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> > Rulk, Konvict = FLAVORS OF THE MONTH.
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> > Oh, and Kurse and Mangog would wipe themselves with Rulk like I said. And to think we were banning these guys from tournaments?
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> > Once and for all, let's stop jumping the gun on new guys. Did you really think these guys would replace the top tiers? One showing does not a herald buster make. Thor whopped Rulk the second time. Konvict is said to be "as strong as Superman"- Wow!!! Give it time, folks.
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Have we learned out lesson about pumping up first appearances by new characters? · vermin · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 07:19:59 pm EDT
- I am not sure that you can ignore it altogether... · bd2999 · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 08:47:04 pm EDT
  - There's No Real Logic to it. [Hulk #6 Soilers within] [Spoilers] · Daveym · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 01:46:39 pm EDT
    - Re: There's No Real Logic to it. [Hulk #6 Soilers within] [Spoilers] · Primetime · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 06:29:41 pm EDT
      - Ah, My Personal Stalker Returns.... [Hulk #6 Soilers within] [Spoilers] · Daveym · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 06:53:07 pm EDT
        
        Re: Ah, My Personal Stalker Returns.... [Hulk #6 Soilers within] [Spoilers] · Primetime · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 08:11:35 pm EDT
    - There is NO evidence that Thor was hitting Rulk at full force in their first fight. [Spoilers] · Maximum Man · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 11:57:45 pm EDT
      - Thank you. He isn't going to hit Rulk like he's a Celestial. (no text) · verminish · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 12:58:50 pm EDT
      - Eh?!! [Spoilers] · Daveym · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 08:26:41 am EDT
        
        That reminds me on something... [Spoilers] · Vangrab · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 11:18:04 am EDT
        
        Re: That reminds me on something... [Spoilers] · Daveym · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 11:52:03 am EDT
    - Re: There's No Real Logic to it. [Hulk #6 Soilers within] [Spoilers] · bd2999 · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 07:58:01 pm EDT
      - Re: There's No Real Logic to it. [Hulk #6 Soilers within] [Spoilers] · Daveym · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 08:16:07 pm EDT
        
        Re: There's No Real Logic to it. [Hulk #6 Soilers within] [Spoilers] · Primetime · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 08:45:30 pm EDT
        I don't think Red Hulk is stornger than either Thor or the Hulk... [Spoilers] · Vangrab · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 11:37:44 am EDT
        Yeah the nova surfer incident was something similar in a way... I agree. [Spoilers] · Would be Watcher · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 09:29:05 am EDT
    - Re: There's No Real Logic to it. [Hulk #6 Soilers within] [Spoilers] · Destroyer · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 06:49:09 pm EDT
    - I wonder... [Spoilers] · Hatman · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 02:38:49 pm EDT
  - There's NOTHING confusing about it to me. Thor does not NOT go all out the first time.... · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:09:49 am EDT
  - I explain these ridiculous change... · Would be Watcher · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 07:26:03 am EDT
- In the case of Red Hulk, it's purely bad writing. His initial showings were really above top tier, and, now... · Public Enemy #1 · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 08:30:12 pm EDT
  - No they were not. Top Tier is Thor, Surfer, Superman. · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:22:47 am EDT
    - Top Tier is Thor and Red Hulk beat him first like he was Aunt May. That's > Top Tier. (no text) · ArtTeacher · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 04:21:46 pm EDT
    - Except he was dancing all over them... · Would be Watcher · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 12:48:44 pm EDT
      - Nope, I don't see it like that at all. Rulk beat Thor with PLANNING..... · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 01:49:54 pm EDT
        
        Hey Vermin, you can paint an orange red and it's still an orange... · HMB3 · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 01:36:57 am EDT
        
        Re: Hey Vermin, you can paint an orange red and it's still an orange... · Vangrab · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:10:32 am EDT
        
        What plan?!! · HMB3 · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 08:11:24 am EDT
        
        Re: What plan?!! · Vangrab · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 11:03:06 am EDT
        
        I'm sure many have studied Thor and probably have protocols... · HMB3 · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 11:43:55 am EDT
        
        Sure we can agree to disagree... · Vangrab · Sun Sep 28, 2008 at 04:03:42 am EDT
        
        Re: Hey Vermin, you can paint an orange red and it's still an orange... · Vangrab · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 03:07:56 am EDT
        
        Now THIS is flawed logic. NT · HMB3 · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 08:14:06 am EDT
        
        Re: Now THIS is flawed logic. NT · Vangrab · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 11:12:03 am EDT
        
        That explanation can't cover all the gaps required to explain what happened... · Would be Watcher · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 04:19:11 pm EDT
        
        It makes perfect sense. Rulk operates at peak level UNTIL..... · verminish · Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 01:04:42 pm EDT
  - Re: In the case of Red Hulk, it's purely bad writing. His initial showings were really above top tier, and, now... · dave · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 12:38:21 am EDT
    - It appears that this is the case. (no text) · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 02:02:03 pm EDT
- Yea should wait until arc is donw to start guessing on powerlevels... · Master · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 07:25:32 pm EDT
  - I don't know about that. What we know is that Rulk has and extremely high upper limit... · vermin · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 07:36:59 pm EDT
    - Re: I don't know about that. What we know is that Rulk has and extremely high upper limit... · Master · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 08:09:03 pm EDT
      - Re: I don't know about that. What we know is that Rulk has and extremely high upper limit... · ArtTeacher · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 09:38:39 pm EDT
    - the real lesson learned was... · smallfry · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 08:08:57 pm EDT
      - What "snap judgement" did I jump to? · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:13:49 am EDT
      - Re: the real lesson learned was... · Master · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 08:10:07 pm EDT
        
        Re: the real lesson learned was... · ArtTeacher · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 08:15:47 pm EDT
        
        Re: the real lesson learned was... · Master · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 08:22:48 pm EDT
        
        Re: the real lesson learned was... · ArtTeacher · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 09:42:20 pm EDT
        
        hehehe, Nice one · Master · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 09:50:38 pm EDT
        
        Thank God! (no text) · ArtTeacher · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 09:57:10 pm EDT
        
        LOL, And Agree....NT · Master · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 10:02:28 pm EDT
        
        Re: the real lesson learned was... · smallfry · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 09:37:32 pm EDT
        
        Re: the real lesson learned was... · Master · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 09:54:59 pm EDT
        
        I know you don't like it.... [Spoilers] · Maestro · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 10:34:03 pm EDT
        
        Are you serious?? No it doesn't! [Spoilers] · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:27:38 am EDT
        
        why Thor did better the second time [Spoilers] · smallfry · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 08:20:19 pm EDT
        
        I know you don't like it... [Spoilers] · Master · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 10:52:12 pm EDT
        
        Guys her just don't like the taste of raw Crow. (no text) · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:29:14 am EDT
        Re: I know you don't like it... [Spoilers] · Maestro · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 11:13:11 pm EDT
        
        No matter how you spin it, Thor did not say or indicate that he was going all out. (no text) [Spoilers] · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 10:30:33 am EDT
        
        Right... so I'm going to kill you but I'm going to "hold back" while doing so... even though I saw how strong you are having just pwned the Hulk. *rolls eyes* (no text) · Maestro · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 11:38:50 am EDT
        
        Bingo. Hopefully you are clear now. (no text) · vermin · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 01:53:27 pm EDT
        
        Yep... I'm clear on how ridiculous that sounds and am shocked that you actually believe it. :-) (no text) · Maestro · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 03:59:09 pm EDT
        
        And now you understand him and his handle. :) (no text) · ArtTeacher · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 04:18:20 pm EDT
        
        Wow. It's like Master read an entirely different comic than you and I...and everyone else! (no text) · ArtTeacher · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 11:22:22 pm EDT
        
        Yup... to the point where he isn't satisfied enough with Thor's showing in #6. He wants to retcon Thor's showing in #5 too. :-) (no text) · Maestro · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 09:06:40 am EDT
        LOL, Must be Cuase everything I said Is Proven in 6 or Thor continuity...nt(I know you guys are sad that · Master · Fri Sep 26, 2008 at 02:05:51 am EDT
        
        The difference in issues 5 and 6 is the "sucker punch". [Spoilers] · awisemansays · Thu Sep 25, 2008 at 11:20:47 pm EDT