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The Last Word

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Kwan Jang Nim

Subj: Spiderman just about killed Namor in ASM No. 215.
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 at 01:18:54 pm EDT
Reply Subj: Re: How strong is Deathstroke/HawkMan considered???
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 05:05:17 pm EDT

> > > > > > Couple of my more liked characters but don;t really have a definate strengh levels, wondering where board put's them???
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> > > > > > Also how good are there healing factor's compared to some of the best???
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> > > > > Dont know about Deathstroke, but usually, Hawkman got a better soaking damage ability than exactly a major healing factor. Hes more like Thor in that regard.
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> > > > > Strength? Its hard to peg him. Close to classic Aquaman level, i`d say.
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> > > > How strong is that in Marvel 0-100 ton scale???
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> > > Classic Aquaman always looked to me as an analogue to something around cl50.
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> > > Post crisis (and for all porpuses, still the "classic" self, since his history was one of the few that wasent totally erased or started anew) he seemed to start at cl60, but at the time the "Sub Diego" arc kicked in, in his recent run, he looked to have been upgrade to around cl80.
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> > Classic Aquaman in the 60's and 70's was always shown to be around Spiderman level, nowhere near class 100, let alone class150. In DC versus Marvel in 1996 he was shown to be noticably weaker strengthwise than Namor, who is also below class 100. I remember a Brave and Bold issue where Batman had him in a hammerlock and Aquaman couldn't break it. Not meaning to be rude, but classic Aquaman just wasn't that powerful.
> Namor is Class 100 (has been in continuity forever and has been in the Handbooks since 1989) while even during the '60's and '70's Aquaman was able to rip right through titanium. His strength did vary a lot depending who was writing him. I would agree that he was on average portrayed as a 10-25 ton character back then, though some depictions had him as low as only a little above peak human levels. Even today, he is 150x stronger than a peak human level of 750 lbs, or put another way, can pres about 60 tons. This does not really mean that he would be Class 50-60 in Marvel since they use there class system far more for a comparative strength ratio than for actual weight a charcter can lift. Aquaman csn lift a literal 60 tons while many Marvel Class 50's routinely lift weights of several hundreds of tons. The guys in Marvel's Class 80-90 routinely lift near 1000 tons. Namor (wet) has lifted aircraft carriers and mountains, so while Aquaman is a lot stronger than Batman or Spiderman, the gap between his strength and Namor's (or other Marvel Class 100's) is huge.
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