Dave Galanter
December 1st 1969 - December 12th 2020
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Would be Watcher

Location: Canada
Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
In Reply To
MacGruder

Subj: Re: The Surfer Factor
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 10:38:10 am EDT (Viewed 89 times)
Reply Subj: The Surfer Factor
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 at 10:02:09 am EDT (Viewed 9 times)




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      You like to point out all the stuff that Surfer can do.  Well, the GLs are an army of guys that can do the exact same thing... Surfer is more powerful than most of them, if not all, as they are limited by their will (which is why some are more powerful and capable than others), but there is the rare exception like Hal.
     

    Saying that the GLs can substitute the Surfer is like saying that Cap America can substitute Superman; The Surfer's got a superpowered form; He's got cosmic awareness; he's got thousands of years of experience. More importantly, is the source of his own power.


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      And your point on absolutes... every time you are involved in a post with Surfer as a topic, you present him and his power as an absolute, and just look the other way when Surfer has been shown to lose. Or you go on about what he CAN do, instead of how he actually operates in a comic.


    Captain America is to Superman as a GL is to Surfer? Now that's some serious bias..... Captain America has no similar powers and doesn't offer any comparable power, yet it's clear that the Surfer Factor is in operation, since a "well written Norrin" dwarfs a GL in power and is in a league of his own.


I agree, that comparison was laughably waaaaaay off and biased. I'm straining to think of something GL's haven't been able to pull out of their ring that Norrin has and I just can't see it. And their power intensity is their willpower... that alone is scary and in some case, like Hal, it's downright ubber. Unless you have Hal on his worst day and norrin written at his best, and even then, I can't begin to see his captain america comparison making any sense. At this point it can't even be explained by the "cool" factor that shine over surfer and make Galactus and other herald look bad in comparison.

IMO it's a huge cloud of snobfog that just won't go away... What's worst is plenty of those defending Norrin "invincibility" have the nerve to say other characters, who Norrin would obliterate with laughting ease of course, are too powerful and are ridiculous in concept... because Galactus as powerful has he's supposed to be has a need for ever betraying heralds who look more adept at the PC than him to begin with... go figure.



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