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Subj: I'd Say He's Perhaps Close but No.
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 at 08:39:03 am EST (Viewed 147 times)
Reply Subj: Thanos is Skyfather level (my argument)
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 at 08:04:16 am EST (Viewed 201 times)
I disagree with the potency of some of your examples there but acknowledge the point about him being above Herald and occasionally close to Skyfather. The problem is a respect thread is not taking into account the poorer showings or the context of how the good ones came about, the key component to Thanos' achievements tends to be his careful preperation and advance knowledge before going into a venture and that sort of Prep and daring can make anyone look good. You should also bear in mind he gambles an awful lot, against Galactus, Against Tyrant, Against the Elders he took calculated risks that didn't always turn out favorably. It is very notable he was reluctant to face Annihulus for example who despite an apparent upgrade for Annihilation had previously been utterly dimissed by Odin.
He also has been reliant on his tech a lot, whether that be an emergency teleporter or his chair for general transport. None of which do a Zeus/Odin level skyfather make....
Heralds such as the Silver Surfer have rivalled Thanos' durability many times and Thanos' firepower has never been seen to rival the Surfers upperlevels where he blasts planets apart, and for the likes of the moralistic Surfer getting to that stage is a psychological step by step process as he is ingrained to hold back which isn't so much a problem for Thanos.
True Skyfathers aren't just physically powerful but have divine lifeforces that enable them to perform actions above the Silver Surfer level, if Odin or Zeus were serious about taking on Thanos I don't imagine he could compete at all. Even perceived lower tier cosmics like The Stranger or Molecule Man operate on a level he can't really compete with and The Stranger himself is a more convincing Skyfather type figure than Thanos is.
But taking the logic furthr If yours is the formula for judging Thanos to be on Skyfather level isn't The Destroyer also skyfather then? Or Apocaylpse? Sentry? Maybe even a Full power Magneto?
I accept fully he was seen as above Herald generally (but so too was Morg initially) but on the other hand would he be a match for the Surfer who came out of Annihilation for example? I think it More realistic to say he's more 'Skyfather' now that he's dead and has apparently elevated to being Deaths consort.