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Subj: I'd Say He's Perhaps Close but No.
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 at 08:39:03 am EST (Viewed 147 times)
Reply Subj: Thanos is Skyfather level (my argument)
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 at 08:04:16 am EST (Viewed 201 times)

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Ok so I know Thanos is mainly considered to be at Teambuster level on the boards but I tend to think we are selling him short has he has a lot more going for him than say WWH or Doomsday.

I happen to think Thanos crosses over into the Skyfather level category, Im not saying he's up there with Odin but I do think he makes it in to the low end - heres a few reasons why (& a couple of links):

-Able to physically match both Thor and Thing pre-resurrection
-Knocks the Champion of the Universe flying back with one punch (Earth heroes had a job to hurt him with punches)
-Holds back both Hulk and Thing in Infinity Crusade

-Unharmed by Surfers blast
-Survives blasts from Omega and Galactus both top end Cosmics
-Survives Blasts and physical attacks by Tyrant and Odin both High end Skyfather level beings
-Absorbed the Heart of the Universe
-Survived a black hole with a few cuts and bruises

Energy Projection
-Blasts Galactus out of his ship and across a planet
-Helps Free in-betweener from his 'prison construct'
-Destroys an ironman level being with one shot
-KOs Thing and Thor with eye beams

Energy Manipulation
-Turns a Skrull to stone
- Thanos created a house from nothing (Infinity Abyss)
-Heals the Cleric of wounds (Thanos series)
-Shuts down the Beyonder and traps her inside of herself
- Stops Thors hammer by raising his hand

Intelligence - where to start...
-Found the biological application of the Power Cosmic
-Created a Galactus Clone (however absurd)
-Gained Godhood/Omnipotence 3 times
-Has the knowledge stolen from the 'Oracle', from the Infinity well etc
-Galactus accepts to follow Thanos' lead against Hunger due to Thanos' understanding of inter-dimensional parasitic creatures lol
-Outsmarting the Elders of the Universe

Mind powers
-Defeated Moondragon in a mind duel
-Destroys Pips mind
-Mentally enslaves the Fallen (a Herald level being)
-Destroys Drax's Mind

-Teleportation tech (huge range)
-Forcefields capable of with standing a shot from Galactus and Omega
-Forcefields capable of imprisoning Hulk and Namor
-Gun capable of Imprisoning Thor with Power Gem and Warriors Madness
-Ship capable of withstanding full attack by Rigellian fleet with no damage

Fighting Skills
-Takes on most deadly mercenary Armies in the Universe on his own and wins
-Takes on Thousands of Magus' followers and wins
-Trained Gamora
-Takes on Thing and Thor together
-Takes on Power Gem wielding Warriors MAdness Thor one on one
-Punches Mar-Vell from the Moon to Earth

Life creation
-Created Mystic Clones of himself including a Galactus Level being

Thanks to the various people who the Scans belong to - they are not mine \:\)

Feel free to add your own examples I've just put up what came to mind.


I disagree with the potency of some of your examples there but acknowledge the point about him being above Herald and occasionally close to Skyfather. The problem is a respect thread is not taking into account the poorer showings or the context of how the good ones came about, the key component to Thanos' achievements tends to be his careful preperation and advance knowledge before going into a venture and that sort of Prep and daring can make anyone look good. You should also bear in mind he gambles an awful lot, against Galactus, Against Tyrant, Against the Elders he took calculated risks that didn't always turn out favorably. It is very notable he was reluctant to face Annihulus for example who despite an apparent upgrade for Annihilation had previously been utterly dimissed by Odin.
He also has been reliant on his tech a lot, whether that be an emergency teleporter or his chair for general transport. None of which do a Zeus/Odin level skyfather make....

Heralds such as the Silver Surfer have rivalled Thanos' durability many times and Thanos' firepower has never been seen to rival the Surfers upperlevels where he blasts planets apart, and for the likes of the moralistic Surfer getting to that stage is a psychological step by step process as he is ingrained to hold back which isn't so much a problem for Thanos.
True Skyfathers aren't just physically powerful but have divine lifeforces that enable them to perform actions above the Silver Surfer level, if Odin or Zeus were serious about taking on Thanos I don't imagine he could compete at all. Even perceived lower tier cosmics like The Stranger or Molecule Man operate on a level he can't really compete with and The Stranger himself is a more convincing Skyfather type figure than Thanos is.
But taking the logic furthr If yours is the formula for judging Thanos to be on Skyfather level isn't The Destroyer also skyfather then? Or Apocaylpse? Sentry? Maybe even a Full power Magneto?

I accept fully he was seen as above Herald generally (but so too was Morg initially) but on the other hand would he be a match for the Surfer who came out of Annihilation for example? I think it More realistic to say he's more 'Skyfather' now that he's dead and has apparently elevated to being Deaths consort.