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Subj: Re: Yes of Course, Even Better If He Was Beefed Up Though.
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 at 04:24:37 pm EST (Viewed 183 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Yes of Course, Even Better If He Was Beefed Up Though.
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 at 03:08:30 pm EST (Viewed 38 times)
Quote:Amazing. You keep mentioning a gas explosion without mentioning the explosion being nuclear level and totally not mentioning Superman being KOed by an normal gas station explosion. We have Superman being out quicked and tossed by a gorilla and Dr. Light KOing him, but you can only harp on Hulk's "low" showings and exaggerate how low they are on top of that.
I keep mentioning Gas explosions because he has a solid history of being troubled by them. That's not me making stuff up it's right there throughout his History!
I've told you before - there is a WORLD of difference between Superman being Koed but once by a Gas explosion fighting Doomsday (Inarguably the single toughest opponent he's ever fought barring superboy-Prime) and of seeing the Hulk being Koed by one fighting, uh.... Machine Man. Or Iron man.
And how on earth do you extrapolate Dr Lights creative use of his power as a low showing? Or this Gorilla example of which I have no idea what you're talking about!
Superman has precious few samples of a genuinely crap showings, the Hulk by contrast has oodles.... he just isn't seen as that consistent overall unlike Superman and no way is he as impervious as Doomsday or a Daxamite.
And I won't dwell on the Hulk Vs. the Pet Dragon either....
Quote:You keep mentioning a "mere mountain" while ignoring the movement of tectonic plates (continent level).
Yes, Because I have no, i mean NO, idea how big a feat that really is. See previous posts to you where I explain why i never bring up similar hard to gauge feats such as Superman holding Black Holes (JLA #77) or him shoving a proto solar system into space (Trinity #2) or Him shatteering the barriers of Time/Space when fighting Kal-L.
And in any case pulling tectonic plates is not halfway as impressive as being a substantial part in pulling a planetary body, several times over.
Quote:Hulk doesn't need to be written at any other level than he is now to compete and be a major force. We see this when he fights Sentry, when he fights Gladiator, when he fights Hyperion, when he fights Thor, Zom, the Cosmic Order, Onslaught, Juggernaut, a double powered Abomination, etc. Hulk is easily in line with Konvikt with the potential to go beyond.
Really?! Is that why he has to get a power-up to get past the Namor/Hercules/Thor level he normally maxes out at?
You're looking at a character who can get major problems from Wolverine, Doc Samson, Abomination or Iron Man and none of those would last 30 seconds against a Konvikt or Doomsday type Uber-Brick who can tear the JLA apart and fight Superman for hours non-stop.
I have never seen Namor/Thor/the Hulk or Thor display planetary level strength/durability the way Superman, Majestic or possibly even the Dragonball universe has, and not all the fan-waffle in the world is going to change that fundamental disparity between differing characters and universes as it is just a simple fact Some chracters are meant to be that powerful and always have been.
They've had over 45 year to impress their strength/Durability level onto us, and that level is nothing like Superman & Co's proven track record these last 15+ years, or just ten in majestics case.
As i keep saying you are more than welcome to your own ideas on these characters, but at no time have you even come close to supplying a realistic argument for the Hulk or Thors physical superiority over a Superman,Dragonball or Mr Majstic powerhouse. Because the argument just isn't there.
If there's one thing that is apparent it's the wide gap between what obsessives like you want the character to be and what he actually is.