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Daveym 
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Subj: Re: So if the Tick was in DC, he'd be Superman-level? Spooooon!. nt
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 at 05:42:23 pm EST (Viewed 29 times)
Reply Subj: Re: So if the Tick was in DC, he'd be Superman-level? Spooooon!. nt
Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 at 05:31:27 pm EST (Viewed 163 times)



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      This is where the thinking gets messed up with you DC guys- Hulk and Superman are and have always been peers strength/power-wise... DC and Marvel just have different ways of showing feats, Marvel tries for a more realistic approach (while still being in the spirit of the medium) whereas DC tends towards a Loony Toons over the top approach. It's not a difference in the character's individual abilities, but in the way the two companies represent those abilities. Hulk would not need any kind of "beef up" to hold the same rank in the DCU that he holds in the Marvel U- the difference in company style and approach would put Hulk at Doomsday levels instantly without him actually being any tougher than he is now at Marvel. And as for Hulk being cured by now in the DCU- I'd have to say that Banner, upon his arrival, would almost immediately be considered the smartest person in the DCU. He hasn't cured himself yet, and no one at DC has any better shot at it.



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    I'm afraid the only time the Hulk or Thor has been a physical peer to Superman is in the late 80s/early 90s. This is what i keep trying to get across, when he starts out after the '86 reboot he is at his single ever lowest powerlevel since he was created in 1938 yet he's still a clear physical match for Thor or the Hulk.


You are trying to get this opinion across, yet you fail to prove it.


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    Then after Doomsday and the Eradicator reviving him he begins a path of gradual power-ups and refinements that see him go from being more or less a mountain mover in 1987 to playing a substatial role in Moving moons/Planets....



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    By contrast no one can argue that Thor, Namor or the Hulk has had any serious power-up over the years. That's one side of the problem, but really the sheer scale in the difference between showings and powerlevels between the two companies is now so pronounced I can see no realistic argument for saying Hercules/Namor is any match for a Superman or Power Girl. Why is it no one argues the Hulk or Thor can match Vegeta for example?!


No such sheer scale in the difference exists, but I can see how it would seem that way when you key on favorites greatest feats and on the lowest feats of the characters you disdain.


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    And don't dare accuse DC of having stupid physics, I've seen more stupid physics in the MU over the last three years than in the last three at DC. Basicall think of anything the Red Hulk did in his first few issues, the Hulks 'Footstomp of Doom', Hercules/Atlas lifting the heavens, there's a lot of stupid stuff about in the MU...


And you refuse to acknowledge those as feats. So I guess we can do the same with the planet moving. When it comes to Marvel, you have thrown in things like, "obscure issues", (wasn't the pet dragon issue obscure also? Wasn't the GL and Superman Earth moving flashback an obscure issue?). Any excuse you can to deny a feat.




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