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Daveym 
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Nucleon

Subj: Re: Yet It's So Simple
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 04:47:45 pm EST (Viewed 109 times)
Reply Subj: Yet It's So Simple
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 04:16:36 pm EST (Viewed 107 times)




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      So Where was Superman having trouble with a Helicopter? I'm not familiar with it and No one seems able to answer it. Clearly You know so let's hear it!



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    Adventures of Superman #607. I do not know this because I have them all, but because it has been brought to you in the posts I read. There are others such low feats here and there, recently, like Superman and the Kryptonians failing to move a moon.

The Moon that was travelling out of control at Super-speed thanks to their engineering you mean.... don't overlook that not so minor detail.

I'm afraid the Helicopter thing you refer to is false, i just checked, someone's making stuff up i'm afraid.




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      And I acknowledge Black Lightnings success with the Red lightning assault, it derives from the idea Krytonians are affected by differing radiation wavelengths and is hardly a Top Secret. But what has it to do with anything here?



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    That makes sense - too much sense. If this is IMO the correct way to read Superman's power, it can only lead to him falling before the merest light manipulators, and both you and I know that DC won't let that happen, do we?

What's that mean? Regardless, we know full well the Kryptonians have developed weaponry able to neutralise or kill any dissenters on New Krypton and we know Earth has certain tech too, partly thanks to Luthors efforts...


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      Weird logic. None of the DCU tier are invincible, I've seen Superman & Supergirl alone nearly killed several times in the last year or so alone. You should try reading DC comics a bit, it always sounds as if you're going from second hand gossip, you should get out and read more...



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    Well, because of how things are dealt with at DC, I just stop buying them. I was an adept of John's JSA, as well as Batman. I also like the recent DC animated, but their on-comic one-man-shows and the irrational excesses it commands.



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    Same thing with Marvel and the Sentry, or the Red Hulk. Sillyness does not appeal to me in that genre - so it would be stupid from my part to only refer to these stupid moments to base my claims, wouldn't it?

Actually I think the problem is that you've grown out of comics, or rather superhero comics, and just won't accept it. I don't understand people who waste their time and everyone elses posting on forums who's subject matter they are rather apethetic to at best... that's creepy really.


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      The key turning point to his being able to even threaten Darkseid Legitimatly came on the back of his power-up in Our Worlds at War, he had now enough power and more importantly experience to be able to beat Darkseid... even then it was far from easy. Before that point he was definitly not a match.



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      I can go on and on with the scale of his power-up but there is no evidence Everyone at DCs toptier were automatically granted power-ups just to match Superman.... you're mything it.



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    Well, if he grew powerful enough to beat Darkseid, he sure isn't powerful enough to beat... Wonder Woman, who meanwhile kills gods on a whim in her own title. What does that says to you?

That's nonsense and I think you know it. Wonder Woman is not his physical equal and never has been, the only person on here who will maintain adamantly through hail, sleet & sunshine that she is is J.


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    What is does tell me, is that the powerscale between DC heroes just stays the same. Same thing when Iron Man in his own title uprades his armor - you are tend to conclude that he would be higher up the power relation, yet he stays at the same place as soon as there is a team book or a crossover.

That's solely down to a companys set Hierarchy, how they choose to position their prima assets. Before 1988 Wolverine was that cool scary dude from the X-Men who might be able to give Captain America a good fight.... move forward to the mid 90s and he's not only politically correct he's schooling The Avengers, Shang-Chi & Captain America as well! This dude is henceforth seen as invincible.

It's just the money talking. Whoever makes the most money and is hence of greater importance tends to get the star billing, in any fictional universe....

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      It IS my problem I agree! Nontheless I plough on....



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    Well, I can't do nothing but wishing you good luck.


Thanks. I need it! \(fear\) \(wink\)



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