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The Real Lance Eason

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Volstagg jr

Subj: In Spidey's case, I don't think his durability is on a par with his strength...
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 at 12:38:56 am EST (Viewed 123 times)
Reply Subj: Wolverine or Spider-Man, Who Jobs more to Street Levelers?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 11:53:32 pm EST (Viewed 12 times)

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Spidey for some reason I can't fathom, has trouble against the likes of Punisher, Kingpin and Daredevil; hell I think DD once KOed him. Black Cat, Silver Sable and Foreigner have also given him trouble. Wolvie looks bad against Daredevil and Electra even though he's taken shots from The Hulk and kept fighting. So which of these guys who have stood up to herald level characters gets their ass handed to them more often against the likes of Batroc the Leaper and Frogman?

And since this is a battleboard.

Current Magneto vs Current Thor

For many, perhaps most, characters with super-strength, they have durability that seems roughly equivalent. For instance, the Thing and Colossus are similar in strength levels and both seem to have the durability to take each other's punches pretty well. Ditto for Thor and the Hulk, Superman and Captain Marvel, etc.
I've not seen much to suggest that Spidey can't be knocked out by an amount of force similar to that needed to knock out a normal human. Of course, he DOES face off against foes with strength similar to his own (Scorpion, Venom,etc.) or even much greater. But, I've always gotten the impression that his success against super powered punches depends mostly on avoiding them or rolling with them enough to minimize their impact by a huge margin. Someone really fast and skillful like Daredevil might be able to get a solid enough shot to actually k.o. him even though he is using less force.
Wolverine would be in a similar position if his healing factor and adamantium skull didn't provide him extra protection from being k.o.'d, so he is harder to explain.

Of course, as I wrote about Spidey's lack of heightened durability, I started to wonder if I wasn't selling him short. He's probably taken hits over the years that would kill an ordinary human, whether he rolls with the punch or not, so maybe that initial theory of mine doesn't hold up at all. Thoughts?

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