Previous Post Reed wins. Death only did so well through one sided prep. I believe in the end Cable managed to defeat him. Shaman is an whole new category and with the added strength of the Enchantress should be able to overwhelm LGU's defences. Added to that is the fact that Nate can just physically jump into the Astral plane and once the fight is fought purely there then LGU has no chance.

Yes, Death had one-sided prep and tech geared towards the X-Men and all their telepaths... Including Nate. I realise Shaman Nate is significantly more powerful, but in this fight so is Logan's own mental powers (should be at or around uber Cable levels - see above). Plus his defenses resisted three powerful psis in one go, not just Nate.

Cable never beat him as far as I am aware. He beat himself by escaping Apoc's programming.


Man, my fingers are too fat for these Blackberry keyboards



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