Quote:I just think its soo ridiculous to make an already ridiculously powerful character I.E Thor, Hulk, Superman and make them more powerful than they were originaly concieved! Its fanboy ridiculousness! Why do they need to be more powerful? I LOVE THE HULK BECAUSE, I believe the Reason he is the strongest is because he was abused as a child, soo he takes all that hurt, that pain and he becomes a creature who will not take that kind of punishment ever again! It goes with his history! I could careless if Hulk can get Stronger than Thor, because its in his powers to do so! But Thor has other means to defeat him! Some hulk fans just want him to be unstoppable thats pathetic! Dont you want to see him struggle? THOR fans love Thor because even though he is extremely powerful he faces threats that dwarf his own might! HULK should not get Stronger than a skyfather at all! I mean that should be his limit! And that should'nt be concidered a bad thing either! But all this bull of Hulk factor and what not is just a bunch of crap! HULK does'nt need a power up! He's fine the way he is! Or was! THOR should be The most Powerful Hero and Hulk should be the Strongest! There is nothing wrong with this matter of thinking! Grow up and accept things! Everybody can be beat! Theres nothing wrong with that! Sheeeesh
The original creator of the Hulk, Stan Lee, was the one that coined the phrase,"the madder Hulk gets, the stronger he gets and there's no end to Hulk's anger!", so blame it on him.
The Hulk is no more powerful than the history and logistics of the way his power dictates him to be, plays out. Stan Lee, again, was the writer that made it clear that if Hulk was struck with gamma rays or cosmic rays, it would increase his base level strength. So blame it on him.
It's only fanboy ridiculousness, when you can't stand the character. In truth there is nothing remotely different about how the characters abilities work.
As far as being unstoppable, Hulk has been coined "A Force of Nature" by his creator Stan Lee. A phrase basically meaning something 'unstoppable'. This is why you see me state many times that Hulk is not the ordinary run of the mill Superhero. He's not in that category. He's not like them. He's a MONSTER and a BEAST. Hulk's struggle is internal as well as external. He's, more than any other character, his own worst enemy. People who complained about Hulk kicking everyone's a$$ in WWH totally missed the point of one of the most intriguing aspects of Hulk...that even when he wins...he seems to lose. Even in the past when he found a friend, they would end up dying leaving him alone. Hulk's story really is not about winning battles, it's about finding peace and contentment, that's where his drama lies.
Hulk has no limit. He'll get as strong as he gets angry or as strong as his foes are powerful...if he doesn't get knocked out first...before he reaches that state. To me Sky-fathers only have more wisdom in how to manipulate energy or just having a basic knowledge of what exists, makes them better informed than other beings, whether because of age or what have you.
Look, if a being is said to have no known limit to his strength...how much more powerful than that can you get?
God, I can't figure out how you guys can type into previous response threads anymore... I'm getting old.
"The Hulk is no more powerful than the history and logistics of the way his power dictates him to be, plays out. Stan Lee, again, was the writer that made it clear that if Hulk was struck with gamma rays or cosmic rays, it would increase his base level strength. So blame it on him."
Strength and power are two different things. Strength is basically just physical pressure exerted from contact, right? Power is different, and has many more connations. Mental powers, energy powers, magical powers, ionic powers, etc. So saying the hulk is as powerful as he orginally was isn't really correct. (Not that I'm saying a character can't change... I mean it's kind of cool that a character can evolve... to an extant)
I dunno, I always liked the apethetic frankenstein(ish) hulk... kind of a loner, brutish, noirish creature that was extremely strong... I'm not really into cosmic for the hulk. It's kind of dorky. (heh...though some dark magic stuff could be cool, imho) I like my hulk to be closer to solomon grundy.
I think you might have the wrong impression of sky-fathers. Their powers stem from a helluva lot more than wisdom.
"Look, if a being is said to have no known limit to his strength...how much more powerful than that can you get?" To be honest, there's a decent list of merely earth born people that are more powerful, though perhaps not stronger. Right now, though... I say Hulk would beat anyone on earth, even if he isn't the most powerful, and especially if Pak is writing.
I should also say that right now, the hulk's healing factor might be even more impressive than his strength or other powers he's exhibiting. He's basically a smarter doomsday.