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Subj: Re: what does the #1 rank mean
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 at 11:30:45 pm EST (Viewed 16 times)
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 at 12:59:13 pm EST (Viewed 217 times)

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    is it who would win in a fight with the others listed, the most powerful, both, etc.

Right there are several ways one can interpret criteria for the ranking once you get into details.

    for instance, I think a lot of people would argue Silver Surfer is more powerful than Thor, but that Thor would win in a fight (I actually think they're REALLY close to equal in overall power, but Thor wins in a fight because of how they usually fight.


    I think a Thor vs. Superman fight sans politics involved is a tossup, but I also think Thor is more powerful (though I recognize good arguments for Superman being more powerful, and the last couple years of Thor, especially with the more recent 'reveal' about Mjolnir's nature probably will end up changing my opinion)....

I don't see why that should be the case. Mjolnir now contains the most powerful cosmic storm to have ever existed, one that nearly rivals Odin in power. Though there are now hints of Jane Thor tapping into that power, it's obvious that Thor had not been doing so. The retcon however opens that potential up, and that would make Thor even more powerful than before.

    But also recognize this list seems like a hastily thought out thing...as zvelf brought up, Spider Man above Green Lantern? I'd give him a decent chance against Flash, and an outside chance against the weaker lanterns, but any of the elite lanterns would be HEAVY favorites....and you saw the furor over Cable at a buck....

That's why I doubt the creator of the rankings prized ranking accuracy over creating a thought experiment/game out for choosing the best team for the buck.

    I could see arguments for Superman, but also for the Surfer, Martian Manhunter, Thor, even guys like Dr. Fate or Dr. Strange, or Orion, or a handful of other guys. Does any one of them 'go without saying'?

    Go without saying is pretty much saying 'its a foregone conclusion, and there is no reasonable argument otherwise', while I could certainly argue that a character without a weakness to kryptonite or magic who is competitive might be a better pick. If Thor has the sixty second limitation, you might disqualify him too.

Exactly. My whole point is that there is room for debate. You or I can disagree where we come down in the debate, but the subject of the accuracy of the rankings can be debated within reason.

It makes Mjolnir more powerful, not Thor..... yes it's always been a part of him,but now is it really the power of Thor?

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