Quote:Recently its a quite a raging debate whether JLA/Avengers is the only comparison between these two and I thought I should put all of the other meetings or comparison between Superman and Thor here.
Quote:Unlimited Access 3:
Quote:JLA is fighting Avengers, so Access brings one hero who can fix all of that mess. Its electric Superman of course.
Quote:How could Electric Superman be superior to one that control, manipulate and absorb Electricity on a ridiculous vast level?
Quote:It's Super Natural:
Quote:There's not even a is point of comparison- that is, if you want to be just and fair about the whole thing...
If you want a feat war, I can do that too. Energy Superman was a vastly better energy manipulator of all kinds than Thor.
Quote:Reed Richards says that Superman is perhaps the most powerful hero on both earths and Thor is explicitly name dropped by Franklin Richards as well.
Quote:There are other indirect comparisons as well but I think that puts Superman ahead of Thor in their encounters by quite a bit.
Quote:Here's the thing, Marvel acknowledges that Superman is the single and greatest most popular Super-Hero there is (although things are rapidly changing indeed with the exposure of other Super-Heroes). They wish they have a character on that level because they think that they would make a lot money because of it. Moreover, they're sincerely enamored with Superman, or anything that reminds him of him, because they were personally brought up reading his comics (ask Busiek who said that Superman is the greatest Super-Hero of all time: past, present and future- and they say that we're the fanboys!!!). That's why it's extraordinarily difficult for Thor to defeat the Hulk; regardless of Thor's powers, and skills (when Thor has defeated the likes of Galactus, Ego, Glory, etc., and the Hulk has been defeated by the likes of Black Bolt, Captain America, Iron Man, Valkyrie, Batman, etc.). Yet, a Superman clone in Hyperion can easily defeat the Hulk, and another Superman Clone in Sentry can stop a Sky-Lord's weapon in Mjolnir (Odin created this weapon and imbued it with his powers) easily with his mind (psionics); when that same hammer can cause great pain to the likes of Thanos, Galactus and Surtur. Don't look for logic, because when it comes to Politics there is none. You just follow their behavioral pattern and you can easily predict what they will do..
We can look it that way or we can simply see it as how it is written i.e. Superman is written as more powerful/stronger than Thor most of the times.
Quote:Do you truly and honestly believe that a blow by a Mystical weapon that can actually hurt Galactus in such a way, could be easily stopped by Sentry's psionics? By the hand of Superman w/o feeling any effect? And that he's vulnerable to Magic? All this is way beyond laughable, but yet here we are...
Yes. By that token, Superman has actually punched holes in the bodies of several universal beings and he should have killed Thor in one punch by that level of strength showings.
Quote:Remember: These people who run comics, they don't think the way the public think- they think POLITICALLY!! To then EVERYTHING is about politics!! That's why Jane Thor has Thor's hammer and his name as well.. Got it?!!!
Heh, you almost sound bitter. I wonder why.
You still are NOT getting it. My opinion or yours as fans does not matter in the least in the Final Analysis, but the politics and interests involved that concerns these people who writes these comics. If Superman is the Flagship of DC THEY WILL NEVER allow him to loose to a character that is almost as popular as he is; never mind one that is not as popular- as Thor was in that JLA/Avengers crossover. If I'm running DC, I will not allow Superman to look bad (regardless if I'M a big Thor supporter), because the huge Financial interest that Superman represents to DC. When I posted this exact words on the Avengers Board (a few months prior to the JLA/Avengers crossover) I was banned!!! This order probably came from the Administrator of Alvaros' Message Board directed to the Moderator, because most probably Kurt Busiek complaint about it. If people came to the same LOGICAL realization that I came to, it would probably mean that the results was a foregone conclusion long before it even took place. For there's no way that Kurt Busiek could be fair and just about who would win of the two; regardless if he really wanted to, because DC would never HUMILIATE their so-called Flagship. Busiek was going on and on pretending that he was going to be fair about the whole thing. In fact, one time a female Thor fan (Thor girl) defended Busiek and said that he was just and would treat Thor with respect, and asked Busiek if in fact that this was going to be the case, and he NEVER responded to her. My only concern was, how will Thor loose. If Busiek would create some external circumstances that would allow Superman to win. However, we Know, at the time, how Busiek felt about Superman, and especially about Thor, and Thor's fans.
Here's what would REALLY happen if Thor were to go against Superman. The fact of the matter that Superman is vulnerable to magic and Thor has a Sky-Lord's weapon in Mjolnir, it would probably take just one hit to severely damage Superman- for Thor's magic is Ultra powerful. So powerful that Thor hurt Galactus (a being that's been hit by multiple blasts that could erased continents w/o feeling any effect). Could, by Logic, Superman just blocked Thor's hammer w/o feeling ANYTHING at all? Even with the added vast Mystical component inherited in Mjolnir? Not only did Busiek humiliated Thor by completely Nullifying Mjolnir's power and Thor's strength behind it- he also humiliated Odin as well. This means that Superman could blocked attacks by Sky-lords, but that he's even more invulnerable than Galactus (who if you accurately judge the two in terms of power levels- Superman is nothing more than an insect in comparison). In fact, Superman is in a clear disadvantage if he were to go against Captain Marvel and Black Adam- that is if you take Politics aside.
Now, you mentioned that if I was bitter about the whole Thor thing with Jane Foster? The answer is no, but I'm very frustrated by the whole process that would take away abilities, name recognition, etc. from certain characters and give to others. For instance, Iron Man creating Ultron, when Ant Man did. When Vision (in recent Avengers Civil War animation) absorbed Thor's lightning bolts and send it back to him; when Thor IS THE ONE that has this capability and not the other way around. In conclusion, they do as they want to, and you or me can't say or do nothing whatsoever about it-as far as they're concern. Heck, Busiek said this once in the Thor MB, that they are not obligated to respond to ANY fan query- that they do this practically out of charity! I guess they don't think much of us fans!!! LOL!!!
- Superman vs Thor: Comparison · abhijit · Tue Jan 31, 2017 at 11:03:50 pm EST
- Re: All I know is that this never happened to Thor! · zvelf · Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 11:08:25 pm EST
- So much discussion. BUT the results are: Superman 1, Thor 0. (no text) · Bk Ray · Wed Feb 08, 2017 at 05:50:12 pm EST
- Wow. Does Superman/Hulk and Thor/Hulk also generate this much discussion? (no text) · UName · Mon Feb 06, 2017 at 02:45:57 pm EST
- similar things have been said about Gladiator... · Braugi · Sat Feb 04, 2017 at 02:25:18 pm EST
- Lets face facts · Bk Ray · Sat Feb 04, 2017 at 08:32:52 am EST
- What about Doomsday? · Captainidiot · Fri Feb 03, 2017 at 08:19:00 pm EST
- Superman has always been superior to Thor, from the Silver Age · Marvelfan · Fri Feb 03, 2017 at 02:05:29 pm EST
- Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison · Olorin · Fri Feb 03, 2017 at 12:26:00 pm EST
- Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison · Rehzon · Thu Feb 02, 2017 at 05:22:56 pm EST
- Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison · Oliva · Wed Feb 01, 2017 at 04:10:27 pm EST
- Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison · bd2999 · Wed Feb 01, 2017 at 11:14:23 am EST
- Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison · Primetime · Wed Feb 01, 2017 at 10:35:48 am EST
- This is getting silly at this point. They didn't even fight in the 2 issues you mentioned. · bouken red · Wed Feb 01, 2017 at 08:46:23 am EST
- Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison · Poltargyst · Tue Jan 31, 2017 at 11:38:15 pm EST