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Subj: Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 at 11:36:28 pm CST (Viewed 177 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 at 11:48:03 am CST (Viewed 478 times)
Quote:With respect, this is pretty lazy analysis. Venom beat Superman too...
Quote:And Cap beat up hulk. Outliers happen all the time.
Quote:Not sure I remember that, but ok. The point is that outliers are not what we focus on. A snake beat Hulk too.
That's the point. Superman is routinely shown above Hulk/Thor range in crossovers.
Heck, Cyborg Superman had Surfer on defensive.
Quote:Not to mention all sorts of characters can be the most powerful in a given story. Just how it is.
Quote:Not when the other character is straight up mentioned in the story. And the writer has himself stated that Superman is more powerful than Thor.
Quote:Not really. The second scan in particular was just comparing physical stature. Nothing more is made of it. Reed even says Perhaps.
Quote:And that writer did not say that if you read more of what he was saying. And even if Superman is more powerful it is just one person's opinion.
One writer who has written both Thor and Superman extensively.
Its not a random poster on internet.
Quote:Many people have them. Nor is it saying that Superman cannot defeat Thor.
Unless they have written Thor and Superman for years, I don't know how it is even comparable?
Quote:Remind us the times Thor has been stated as most powerful being on two earths?
Quote:Can do it for nine realms. I am not sure where you are getting this most powerful on two Earth's thing. Placing all your eggs in the baskets you are makes no sense based on the scans you are presenting.
Nine realms? Does that includes DC Earth too?
Quote:Silver Surfer one shot Orion. And Superman acted very impressed by Surfer's power when they faced off against Mxy. Does that mean Surfer is more powerful and since Thor beat him he is more so.
Cyborg Superman literally laughed off Surfer's attacks and asked that if that was his extent of his powers? Under the same writer Superman literally dismissed Cyborg.
So no, Surfer isn't more powerful than Superman.
Quote:Your logic is bad.
Quote:JLA/Avengers probably got close to being right with the two having a slug out. Superman barely outlasts Thor in a straight fight, but one could argue Thor did not use many other powers either.
Quote:Thats not what happened. Superman didnt win a war of attrition. He straight up defeated Thor and was winded. Thats it.
Quote:I do not believe you read the comic at all now. They fought over several books. The two going tit for tat for quite a while.
Eh, no? Did you read the comic?
Quote:Superman did knock Thor out. But at the end he was barely on his feet, said Thor was the single toughest opponent he has ever fought and then was readily taken out by the rest of the team. That would not do well against Superman normally. Or at least struggle.
Busiek flat out said that Superman was using hyperbole.
U-Foes have taken out Thor and Hulk without them able to resist in such a manner. Wrecking Crew put Thor's equal Hercules in coma with such tactics. And both are jobbers of highest degrees.
Hercules, Wonder Man, Vision, Iron Man and She-Hulk together would beat the crap out of any top tier in such a tactic. That doesn't means Superman was barely on his feet
Quote:Your analysis is not great at all.
Quote:I see no reason based on both continuities that either are much stronger or weaker than the other. Particularly when all of their pasts are taking together. Or at least what is considered cannon for Superman.
Quote:Except no? Superman is much stronger than Thor umder most portrayls these days.
You want what, feats? Portrayals? Name it.
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