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abhijit

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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Subj: Re: More scans that debunk you
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 02:54:45 am EST (Viewed 193 times)
Reply Subj: Re: More scans that debunk you
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 at 11:26:40 pm EST (Viewed 145 times)



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      But most of his low showings happened when he was explicitly at a lower power level.



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      In the Dr. Light showing he was explicitly weakened by Vixen sharing his powers.



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    Wrong. He was sharing his powers with Vixen an issue earlier, but a whole issue passes during which Vixen is held captive by the Injustice League before Superman comes busting in and gets one-shot by Dr. Light. Superman and Black Lightning strategize attacking the Injustice League at length beforehand. If Superman were weakened, he would factor that into his planning unless he is a complete idiot. He doesn't and never mentions it. Nothing in the issue implies or mentions anything to that effect.

Are you quite sure? Because here is Vixen returning Superman's powers AFTER he was beaten by Injustice Gang.


Did you even read the comic?


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      And Thor has been koed by a bullet to the head, I've still to find a low showing THAT low for Superman.



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    A special bullet. Normal bullets don't affect Thor:


There was no mention of it being a special bullet.


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Odin force Thor.


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    Even fighter jets which usually have armor piercing rounds don't hurt Thor:



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You should post the next page where he is complaining that they were causing welts on his skin.



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      And Superman has fought abstracts like Thor fights skyfathers. There is a huge difference in the showings.



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    Yes. Thor beat Galactus and Glory. Superman lost to Darkseid and Joker.


Galactus and Glory are merely skyfathers. Superman actually defeated Joker, Defeated Quantum Mechanic who was defeating 5-D imps. Defeated Gaea, defeated Darkseid.

Thor is merely a punk compared to all that.


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        Merged Hulk was stronger than Savage at base, but Savage could ramp up his strength much faster than Merged. You want to think that one fight means everything. It doesn't work that way. Hulk had always had trouble with Bi-Beast up to the time that Thor fought Bi-Beast. The moment Thor stopped holding back, he beat Bi-Beast pretty easily in pure melee. Does that mean Thor is much stronger than Hulk? It would by your logic.


    No, it means that mjolnir strikes harder than savage Hulk on average as shown in Thor 385 as well.


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      Is there any evidence to support that savage hulk grew in strength better than merged Hulk?



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    Yes.

Like what?


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      And Thor defeated Bi-Beast using mjolnir. Not exactly by punching him out.



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    Thor hitting Bi-Beast with Mjolnir and knocked him the eff out is the equivalent of punching him out. As soon as Thor stops holding back, he knocks Bi-Beast out with one shot:


Uh-huh. Mjolnir amps his strikes. Its not solely with his strength. Red Norvell nearly oneshotted him with mjolnir. Does that makes Norvell stronger than Thor?


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He was merely stunned there and later restrained Thor in a bear hug as well.


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        If you believe that, you haven't been reading Hulk. Greg Pak, the biggest Hulk fanboy writer ever, wrote the Gravage Hulk and most of Hulk's high-end feats and victories come from under Pak.



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      I'm talking about before Pak's run.



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    So basically, you just pick and choose what counts for you, which is what we've seen throughout this entire thread. The rest of us like to take everything into account.


Pak's hulk isn't the same gravage hulk as before. He is angrier than ever hence stronger than ever.

I thought you actually know about these characters.


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        You fail to take context into account. Superman was possessed by Eclipso. He wasn't holding back. Billy was.



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      That's exactly opposite of what happened. Billy said in the middle of the fight that he is going to rough up Superman too.



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    You are so completely making up crap. Here we see Billy say, "You're making this hard, Supes. I don't want to hurt you or anything." That's exactly the opposite of what you just said:




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That's pretty much start of the comic. Its like you have selective memory or something.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view¤t=action_comics_annual_04_24.jpg

"I tried doing it easy way."

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view¤t=action_comics_annual_04_40.jpg

"Ok Superman, you are making me go rough here."

To say Cap was holding back when he essentially suckershotted Superman?

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view¤t=action_comics_annual_04_21.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view¤t=action_comics_annual_04_22.jpg

Laughable.


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        Thor's test of strength with Gladiator was before Living Lightning's attack.



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      Which was cut short as the ground gave away. Even weaker characters can lock up in a strength contest for a brief time.



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    There you go twisting things again. The narration clearly indicates they are evenly matched, "Terrible, irresistible strength struggles against unrelenting, immovable muscle! A power born of the stars opposes an immortal force," and calls it a "titanic duel." Of course your interpretation totally belies that.


And where does it calls it even?

That was just flowery dialog you know, right?


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        Once Thor was ready for Gladiator and stopped holding back, Thor beat him, and Gladiator said Thor was too strong for him.



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      By using mjolnir and energy blasts. Gladiator proved stronger than him in a fight though.



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    We already saw they were evenly matched in strength in a direct test of strength. And now we see that Thor is overall superior to Gladiator.

Then how come Gladiator koed Thor in two punches while Thor took several double handed mjolnir attacks and energy blasts to momentarily stun Gladiator while Tarene finally koed him?

You don't see Thor koing him in two punches, do you?


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      What you feel is totally irrelevant. Getting choked out has nothing to do with skills.



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    Then you've never seen an MMA fight where getting choked or not getting choked out is all about skills.


Do they straight up choke out other players with one hand while the other tries to stop them using two hands while standing straight?

Are you really this desperate?


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      And Thor straight up said that he could never beat the hulk in Fear Itself. Like Hulk says "Puny god".



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    Geez, he was being sarcastic! After Hulk agreed, Thor said, "Did you now," and then knocked him into orbit.


And collapsed while Hulk was totally fine.

And there was no hint of sarcasm in that sentence.



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