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abhijit

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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Subj: Re: Let's clarify with some scans
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 04:46:28 am EST (Viewed 158 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Let's clarify with some scans
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 at 10:56:18 am EST (Viewed 161 times)



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        You posted the scans yourself (of course I have the comic at home). We see Darkseid and the Source start to clash, there's a big ball of light, and then we see Darkseid having captured the Source. We don't see the meat of the fight at all.

      What the? That was all the fight which actually happened. There was no off panel fight where Source shattered Darkseid and we actually see Source attack Darkseid and he is never shattered.

You obviously don't understand literary elision when you see it.

Using dictionary wouldn't help when you are lying.

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              That's a funny way to handwave a feat. What being shattered isn't getting harmed?

          Not for some nigh omnipotent beings. Thor threw the Odinsword through the Celestial Arishem's chest.

      Arishem allowed it to happen.



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    That doesn't make my point any less relevant. Your arguing the physical damage against some nigh omnipotent beings should count as stupendous feats when I'm pointing out that physical damage doesn't always mean anything to nigh omnipotent beings.


You are acting like Darkseid and Joker allowed it to happen.

Yes, it does.


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      But do tell us how many times a top tier has shattered a nigh omnipotent being.

    Here is Thor doing it to Galactus:


Thor merely shattered his helmet and got knocked out in process. Where is Galactus literally shattered in half?


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So Thor is less powerful than an alternate reality Nova who blasted through Galactus' head?


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          For most beings, that would be harm in the extreme. It didn't harm Arishem and he pulled it out like nothing happened. That's the same thing that happens in your two examples with soulfire Darkseid and Emperor Joker. Superman's feat isn't a big deal, and then Darkseid and Joker mop the floor with Superman right after. Compare that to Thor fighting another nigh omnipotent in Galactus and driving him away.

        Except Joker and Darkseid were far above Galactus. Superman has defeated above Galactus level beings like Death before.



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      Nope. Death just went all emo and let Superman go.

After Superman punched the shit out of Death and Death admitted defeat.


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    Here's the thing, your evidence is simply showing Superman attacking Emperor Joker and soulfire Darkseid and then getting crushed by them. My evidence is Thor attacking Galactus and driving him off. The latter is clearly more relevant than the former of Superman getting stomped.


Except both Darkseid and Joker were far more powerful than Galactus. Superman doesn't needs saving from beings like Galactus like when Ego saved Thor from getting killed by a throw from Galactus.


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          Thor won. Superman lost and lost easily.

        Thor beating puny Galactus may mean something in marvel. In DC, even Krona can curbstomp Galactus like a feeb.

      That was a Krona who had to absorb the energy of several other universes first, not normal Krona. Galactus would wipe out non-powered-up Krona easily.

    Krona had destroyed the universes under his own power and absorbed them. And even then the powered up Krona was just a peer to Kismet, a lord of Order who got beat up by Dominus.

    The guy who Superman defeated BTW.


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        Who Hal Jordan oneshot killed BTW while he was amped on several cosmic level beings.

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        Which just shows that non-powered-up Krona is the real feeb. It's hilarious the extent you go to in trying to mislead people.

      That only shows Hal Jordan is the man. Krona was powered up by entire emotional spectrum which powers up the entire creation.


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            Again, Thor won. Superman lost and lost easily. Winning is more impressive than losing.

        Because Darkseid was far more powerful than Galactus can ever dream to be

      Actually, Galactus owns the Ultimate Nullifier, which can destroy the entire universe. He could just nullify soulfire Darkseid and that would be that.

Heh, the creator of the creation itself lost to Darkseid and you think a puny weapon like UN can defeat Darkseid?


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        Neither Odin nor the Watcher ever had a direct contest of power with Galactus under Stan Lee so your statement is unmerited. Furthermore, you just look foolish saying you know more about Galactus than Stan Lee, the creator of Galactus.



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    They were directly stated to be equal to him in power.



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    Where? Show me.

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/33466242/18.jpg.html

Thor 162. And Fantastic Four 48.

http://www.readcomics.tv/images/manga/fantastic-four-1961/48/17.jpg


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    Also Zeus said Thor resisted Zeus more than all the Titans put together and all the gods of Olympus. I guess Thor is more powerful than all the Titans put together and all the gods of Olympus:


Resisting something doesn't means powerful. Red Skull with cosmic cube said Scarlet Witch resisted him more than Thor too. Does that makes her more powerful?




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      And I don't share his opinion, doesn't means I know more than him.



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    Which of course you don't. And it's not opinion. Stan Lee created the character. What he says about his own character isn't opinion.

But that doesn't means Galactus was God of marvel because under his own writing he was stated to be rivalled by Odin and Watcher. Like his writing, Stan Lee himself is full of hyperboles.


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      Small god from a small world maybe.

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      But one who beat Galactus, not one who got one-shotted by Darkseid.

Ommitting the fact that Darkseid was far more powerful than usual and Galactus is a puny feeb.


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        Power doesn't necessarily equate to physical durability. Asking how physically durable Beyonder Doom is perfectly legitimate, but if he can reform after any damage, then physical durability isn't necessarily meaningful for him, which is the case for soulfire Darkseid and Emperor Joker as well. They may well be able to increase their physical durability to some nigh infinite level, but that doesn't mean they walk around that way.


    Like I said, that's one way to handwave a feat.



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    Which can be your only response because you can't rebut it logically or with evidence.

Heh, when Galactus can destroy a planet by just a finger flick, do let me know.

But don't let me stave you off your illogical rant, do continue and let us know how powerful Galactus is compared to Source itself.


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            Of course you just leave off what eventually happened...

          Was he knocked out or not? Answer that please.

        No. Thor beat Ego singlehandedly.

    Thirty issues earlier? Because Thor was almost dead before some aliens saved him and healed him from that blast of Ego in Thor 161.

    Do you really want me to post the scans?


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          Galactus can draw in asteroids into the fight if he wants. That's completely fair. It's part of his power set. It was a pretty even fight at first, but ultimately Galactus won. That's indisputable.



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    Yeah, via outside means to his power. Pretty pathetic for The God.

So you're saying anytime anyone uses the environment to take advantage of his opponent, it's not a fair fight? So anytime Superman throws anything at an opponent, Superman is cheating? Asteroids are everywhere in the universe. Galactus can draw on them at any time.

But comets were not from his own power. He just lured them to beat Ego. Even Beta Ray Bill has done so.

Like I said, pretty pathetic. But its Galactus so par for the course.


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      And Galactus was in danger of getting killed by Ovoids and was later disintegrated by a solar system level blast under Starlin and John Stewart tanked a solar system destroying supernova under him with no issues. Heck two planets colliding almost killed him under Starlin when Superman was only briefly koed by two planets colliding under Starlin himself.

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      And Superman got ko'd by a kid with telekinesis, a gas station explosion, and Dr. Light. That shows Galactus and John Stewart are thousands of times more durable than Superman.

But Superman tanked two planets colliding better than Galactus under the same writer.

And one planet exploding killed Omega, who was twice as powerful as Galactus.

So how much more durable is Superman compared to puny Galactus?


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    And here Death admits Superman defeated him.


Your links don't even work. And you're talking about emo Death, who was inspired by Superman and so didn't kill him. That's some real stretching the truth there.

Maybe you should upgrade your puny computer then.

And it wasn't inspired by Superman. It was defeated which it states clearly.

Are you crying now?




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