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Subj: Re: and yet
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 01:53:10 pm EST (Viewed 281 times)
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 05:32:09 am EST (Viewed 295 times)

    No, i meant that Kalibak is like Ulik, the Minotaur and Bi beast, a villain that can hang with Thor/Hulk at base unless they get really serious; to really punk kalibak even Supes can t take it easy after all, most of the win you showed were Supes unloading on him seriously. By your own reasoning, kalibak couldnt resume the fight, since Darkseid ran away because he couldnt face both teams and was losing. Anyway thanks for proving my point by restating your bias. It's pretty obvious that when superman is in the same position as Thor you overhype his role, when Thor is in the same position as kalibak you understate him, and when Thor is in the same position as Superman you diss him and try to lower the stock of his enemy. When Supes is in the same position as kalibak you would probably call it a win.

    Nothing i could say would make you consider the argument fairily, no matter what the author themselves say. Brevoort said that in matter of strenght, he doesnt see difference for thor either with or without hammer, illogical as it might sound, so i dont consider the hammer as conceptually making him less strong by using it, especially if you consider how much the Odinpower can make him eventually.

    I dont care about your opinion, since it s pretty obvious that you are distorting the authors ones to fulfill your need for Supes being unbeatable. The Comics must disappoint you a lot if you truly believe it. That one true fight they had tells that supes can beat thor, true. But not that he will all the time, not even necessarily most of the times; what it says is that it is a tossup. Its not one way, and no matter how much you try, you can t change that. Thor has on his own hurt Galactus far more than Superman ever did in that crossover even with herald powers added to his own, for example, but you didnt consider it in your original post. Why is that? Jurgens for example also said supes would certainly lose against even the thor of his issue one because magic, that doesn't count for anything?

    I think you can count on the contraddiction inherent in a multi author based structure for at least some of the overlap i talked about, but it being contraddicting doesnt mean it cannot be true in such a narrative based medium. For someone who presents himself as such a good source fo all things continuity based you seem to not have a good grasp of the conceptual framework of comics. Also if that Thor story is ooc, how come the galactus crossover is an acceptable source? Is the Galactus/Darkseid crossover canon then? Because darkseid was utterly punked there.

So was Orion, a peer of Superman by a peer of Thor.

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