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Subj: Re: Superman vs Thor: Comparison
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 07:53:52 pm EST (Viewed 6 times)
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 03:49:13 am EST (Viewed 235 times)

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    Nothing has been defensive in my tone.

Of course, of course.

    In my opinion, if he was a level above, Iron Man/Herc wouldn't have been able to take Supes down so easily after the fight. From my perspective, "a level above" means you can put someone down and keep going. Thanos is a level above. Odin is two levels above. They'd have been able to put Thor down and then put Iron Man/Herc down.

You mean Iron Man/Hercules/Wonder Man/Vision and She Hulk, right? A team like that would put Thor into coma just like wrecking crew did to Hercules after Goliath put him into wringer.

    I guess we're coming at this too differently. When Reed Richards says "Perhaps (ie: maybe, who knows) Superman is..." you are using that to prove your point. Even though he used the word "perhaps".

You are forgetting "most powerful hero". Perhaps isn't "Not".

    But when Superman compliments another character, that's just him being humble...Or when Thor says he could beat Superman next time (note he did not use the word "perhaps") that can also be completely ignored?

He didn't say he would beat Superman. Superman is humble, Thor isn't.

    And I do believe Surfer happens to be more powerful than Superman. But that wasn't my point. If Reed Richards said in a comic "Perhaps Silver Surfer is more powerful than Superman" would you agree that this should be used as concrete evidence on the matter?

Yes, if Surfer is stated to be "perhaps more powerful than Superman", that would be in consideration here.

I haven't been defensive. I'm just trying to express how I think people are coming at this differently.

Perhaps isn't "Not", but it's not "Absolutely" either. I happen to think Silver Surfer is more powerful than Superman. If Reed Richards said "Perhaps Surfer is more powerful than Superman" I wouldn't find that compelling enough to use as evidence to support my opinion. I wouldn't put it in consideration. It just doesn't mean enough to me. That's just where we differ.

Regarding Superman vs. Thor:
After the fight with Thor, Superman was hit by by 2 repulsor beams from Iron Man which hurt him badly. Then 1 punch by Wonderman puts him down. He was down (or at the very least literally on his way down). Then the other characters you mention piled on. Maybe we define "level above" differently. But Thanos, who really is a level above, would have been able to take those shots and kept going. He would have probably beaten the combined efforts of the heroes. Superman was clearly tired, which shows he and Thor are relative peers. Or is it your position that a relatively fresh Superman would be so hurt by Iron Man's repulsors and a punch from Wonderman that he'd be incapable of fighting back? Again, we may just differ here on symantics, or what was shown on the page itself. But honestly that's how interpreted the comic.

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