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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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abhijit

Subj: Re: More scans that debunk you
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 09:34:26 pm EST (Viewed 170 times)
Reply Subj: Re: More scans that debunk you
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 02:54:45 am EST (Viewed 190 times)



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      Wrong. He was sharing his powers with Vixen an issue earlier, but a whole issue passes during which Vixen is held captive by the Injustice League before Superman comes busting in and gets one-shot by Dr. Light. Superman and Black Lightning strategize attacking the Injustice League at length beforehand. If Superman were weakened, he would factor that into his planning unless he is a complete idiot. He doesn't and never mentions it. Nothing in the issue implies or mentions anything to that effect.


    Are you quite sure? Because here is Vixen returning Superman's powers AFTER he was beaten by Injustice Gang.


Wow, you're making this too easy. At this point in time Vixen's powers are on the fritz and she is powerless unless she draws on power from elsewhere. She's held captive by the Injustice League and not around to draw on Superman's power when he's ko'd by Dr. Light. However, once Batman has freed her, he's right there and she can draw on his power again right as the Justice League goes into battle against the Injustice Society.


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      A special bullet. Normal bullets don't affect Thor:


    There was no mention of it being a special bullet.


The author himself, Priest, stated it wasn't a normal bullet from a normal gun. He wrote, "It was written as a BIG-A*S KIRBY GUN. A normal gun could not have done this."


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      Even fighter jets which usually have armor piercing rounds don't hurt Thor:


    You should post the next page where he is complaining that they were causing welts on his skin.


Wow. Now you're posting evidence that hurts your own argument. Thor states, "E'en such powerful bullets do no more than raise troublesome welts upon Asgardian flesh." Your whole point is that Thor is not bulletproof and now here is direct evidence that fighter jet bullets "do no more" than show up as welts. Fighter jet bullets are as powerful as bullets get, so clearly Thor is not only bulletproof to the most powerful bullets, he's bulletproof to ordinary bullets, which are far, far less powerful.


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        And Superman has fought abstracts like Thor fights skyfathers. There is a huge difference in the showings.


      Yes. Thor beat Galactus and Glory. Superman lost to Darkseid and Joker.


    Galactus and Glory are merely skyfathers. Superman actually defeated Joker, Defeated Quantum Mechanic who was defeating 5-D imps. Defeated Gaea, defeated Darkseid.


Misleading again. Superman did not beat Emperor Joker. Emperor Joker beat Superman easily. Quantum whozit? Some one off no-name character. When did Superman fight Gaea? And I already showed you Darkseid one-shotting Superman and Galactus punking Darkseid earlier in this thread.


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    Like what?


Like the merged Hulk didn't get angry as easily as Savage Hulk and both Hulks' strength increase with anger level. You can see this throughout the runs of both of them.



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    He was merely stunned there and later restrained Thor in a bear hug as well.


You're hilarious! The very next panel is Man-Wolf saying, "The Bi-Beast has fallen! I can't fight both of you alone!" while Thor is standing over Bi-Beasts limp body. Everyone who has Thor #316, please turn to the last page of the issue and you can see Bi-Beast is STILL unconscious with Thor carrying off his limp body.


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        I'm talking about before Pak's run.


      So basically, you just pick and choose what counts for you, which is what we've seen throughout this entire thread. The rest of us like to take everything into account.


    Pak's hulk isn't the same gravage hulk as before. He is angrier than ever hence stronger than ever. I thought you actually know about these characters.


Pak's Hulk only got that way at the end of Planet Hulk, but Pak was having Hulk doing big feats like holding tectonic plates together even before that. So yes, I know these characters. You don't.


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        That's exactly opposite of what happened. Billy said in the middle of the fight that he is going to rough up Superman too.


      You are so completely making up crap. Here we see Billy say, "You're making this hard, Supes. I don't want to hurt you or anything." That's exactly the opposite of what you just said:



    That's pretty much start of the comic. Its like you have selective memory or something.

    "I tried doing it easy way."

    "Ok Superman, you are making me go rough here."

    To say Cap was holding back when he essentially suckershotted Superman?

    Laughable.


Right, the way you're twisting this is laughable. Captain Marvel never sucker punched Eclipso Superman, and even after Captain Marvel said those half-hearted things, he also kept saying things like, "Supes, I'm sorry but you made me do it! I didn't want to!" and "Hey, Supes! I hope you're not taking this personally," and "Gee whiz, Superman, I've never seen you act like this," and "C'mon, don't be a grump about this." And you keep saying Superman won this fight, but he didn't. He had to fly off before the fight was over.


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      There you go twisting things again. The narration clearly indicates they are evenly matched, "Terrible, irresistible strength struggles against unrelenting, immovable muscle! A power born of the stars opposes an immortal force," and calls it a "titanic duel." Of course your interpretation totally belies that.


    And where does it calls it even? That was just flowery dialog you know, right?


You have an excuse for everything. Irresistible vs. unrelenting and immovable is even!


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    Then how come Gladiator koed Thor in two punches while Thor took several double handed mjolnir attacks and energy blasts to momentarily stun Gladiator while Tarene finally koed him?

    You don't see Thor koing him in two punches, do you?


You get caught up in all this meaningless minutiae. As Thor himself noted, he was holding back against Gladiator in their first fight. Once he stopped holding back, Gladiator was beaten. Keeping spinning all you want, but what it comes down to are Gladiator's own words admitting defeat, "I did my best, but he's too strong."





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            And Thor straight up said that he could never beat the hulk in Fear Itself. Like Hulk says "Puny god".

        Geez, he was being sarcastic! After Hulk agreed, Thor said, "Did you now," and then knocked him into orbit.

    And collapsed while Hulk was totally fine. And there was no hint of sarcasm in that sentence.

Because you don't know how to read and interpret as we've learned over and over in this thread. Also, you know Thor was fighting a powered-up Hulk and a powered-up Thing at the same time. The powered-up Thing had beaten Red Hulk in a previous issue. And this Hulk's power "was greatly elevated." Yet Thor beat Thing and knocked Hulk to the other side of the Earth.








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