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abhijit

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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Subj: Re: More scans that debunk you
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 11:55:16 pm EST (Viewed 147 times)
Reply Subj: Re: More scans that debunk you
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 at 09:34:26 pm EST (Viewed 160 times)



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        Wrong. He was sharing his powers with Vixen an issue earlier, but a whole issue passes during which Vixen is held captive by the Injustice League before Superman comes busting in and gets one-shot by Dr. Light. Superman and Black Lightning strategize attacking the Injustice League at length beforehand. If Superman were weakened, he would factor that into his planning unless he is a complete idiot. He doesn't and never mentions it. Nothing in the issue implies or mentions anything to that effect.



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      Are you quite sure? Because here is Vixen returning Superman's powers AFTER he was beaten by Injustice Gang.



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    Wow, you're making this too easy. At this point in time Vixen's powers are on the fritz and she is powerless unless she draws on power from elsewhere. She's held captive by the Injustice League and not around to draw on Superman's power when he's ko'd by Dr. Light. However, once Batman has freed her, he's right there and she can draw on his power again right as the Justice League goes into battle against the Injustice Society.


Uh, what? She was draining his power right from the time she was on the league. Here is her draining his power and Superman gets weakened further by Parasite draining her.




She already had siphoned power from Superman in Justice League 13, which is what she was returning in Justice League 15.

This is flat out lying at this point.


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        A special bullet. Normal bullets don't affect Thor:



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      There was no mention of it being a special bullet.



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    The author himself, Priest, stated it wasn't a normal bullet from a normal gun. He wrote, "It was written as a BIG-A*S KIRBY GUN. A normal gun could not have done this."

That doesn't means it was a special bullet made for Thor especially.


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        Even fighter jets which usually have armor piercing rounds don't hurt Thor:



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      You should post the next page where he is complaining that they were causing welts on his skin.



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    Wow. Now you're posting evidence that hurts your own argument. Thor states, "E'en such powerful bullets do no more than raise troublesome welts upon Asgardian flesh." Your whole point is that Thor is not bulletproof and now here is direct evidence that fighter jet bullets "do no more" than show up as welts. Fighter jet bullets are as powerful as bullets get, so clearly Thor is not only bulletproof to the most powerful bullets, he's bulletproof to ordinary bullets, which are far, far less powerful.


Thor is not bulletproof if bullets can make welts on his skin. You don't see Superman complaining that bullets make welts on his skin.

And that's just one writer. Stan Lee himself showed Thor getting knocked out by mortar shells and being endangered by bullets.


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          And Superman has fought abstracts like Thor fights skyfathers. There is a huge difference in the showings.



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        Yes. Thor beat Galactus and Glory. Superman lost to Darkseid and Joker.



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      Galactus and Glory are merely skyfathers. Superman actually defeated Joker, Defeated Quantum Mechanic who was defeating 5-D imps. Defeated Gaea, defeated Darkseid.



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    Misleading again. Superman did not beat Emperor Joker. Emperor Joker beat Superman easily.

Superman defeated Joker in the end, didn't he?


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    Quantum whozit? Some one off no-name character.

Quantom Zealot who was destroying a 5-D imp. Literally broke him into half.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16015855/supermanvsimp.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16015857/supermanvsimp2.jpg.html


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    When did Superman fight Gaea?

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    And I already showed you Darkseid one-shotting Superman and Galactus punking Darkseid earlier in this thread.

Haha, seriously? Darkseid was amped to Source level. He would treat Galactus worse than Krona did.


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      Like what?



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    Like the merged Hulk didn't get angry as easily as Savage Hulk and both Hulks' strength increase with anger level. You can see this throughout the runs of both of them.


That's not a proof. That's just your opinion.


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      He was merely stunned there and later restrained Thor in a bear hug as well.



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    You're hilarious! The very next panel is Man-Wolf saying, "The Bi-Beast has fallen! I can't fight both of you alone!" while Thor is standing over Bi-Beasts limp body. Everyone who has Thor #316, please turn to the last page of the issue and you can see Bi-Beast is STILL unconscious with Thor carrying off his limp body.


Yes, he was stunned after an issue worth of fight with both Iron Man and Thor.

To think he was beaten by Thor's single hit is hilarious. But go ahead and pretend it is that.


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          I'm talking about before Pak's run.



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        So basically, you just pick and choose what counts for you, which is what we've seen throughout this entire thread. The rest of us like to take everything into account.



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      Pak's hulk isn't the same gravage hulk as before. He is angrier than ever hence stronger than ever. I thought you actually know about these characters.



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    Pak's Hulk only got that way at the end of Planet Hulk, but Pak was having Hulk doing big feats like holding tectonic plates together even before that. So yes, I know these characters. You don't.


Space cheese is irrelevant. Pak's Hulk before WWH didn't show anything which goes above other hulks.


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          That's exactly opposite of what happened. Billy said in the middle of the fight that he is going to rough up Superman too.



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        You are so completely making up crap. Here we see Billy say, "You're making this hard, Supes. I don't want to hurt you or anything." That's exactly the opposite of what you just said:



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      That's pretty much start of the comic. Its like you have selective memory or something.



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      "I tried doing it easy way."



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      "Ok Superman, you are making me go rough here."



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      To say Cap was holding back when he essentially suckershotted Superman?



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      Laughable.



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    Right, the way you're twisting this is laughable. Captain Marvel never sucker punched Eclipso Superman, and even after Captain Marvel said those half-hearted things, he also kept saying things like, "Supes, I'm sorry but you made me do it! I didn't want to!" and "Hey, Supes! I hope you're not taking this personally," and "Gee whiz, Superman, I've never seen you act like this," and "C'mon, don't be a grump about this." And you keep saying Superman won this fight, but he didn't. He had to fly off before the fight was over.

Yes, he punched Superman from behind but its not a sucker punch. He says "You are forcing me to go rough here" but its still olding back.

You do have SELECTIVE reading comprehension it seems.

He didn't HAVE to fly off. He had Cap at his mercy and left because it was day time and Cap was said to be lucky to alive.


Selective memory at work again.


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        There you go twisting things again. The narration clearly indicates they are evenly matched, "Terrible, irresistible strength struggles against unrelenting, immovable muscle! A power born of the stars opposes an immortal force," and calls it a "titanic duel." Of course your interpretation totally belies that.



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      And where does it calls it even? That was just flowery dialog you know, right?



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    You have an excuse for everything. Irresistible vs. unrelenting and immovable is even!


Yes, but not even as you said. Thor vs Kurse was said the same way and we all know that Kurse is stronger than Thor.

Heck, Storm and Spider-Woman vs Juggernaut was stated irresistible vs immovable.


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      Then how come Gladiator koed Thor in two punches while Thor took several double handed mjolnir attacks and energy blasts to momentarily stun Gladiator while Tarene finally koed him?

      You don't see Thor koing him in two punches, do you?



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    You get caught up in all this meaningless minutiae. As Thor himself noted, he was holding back against Gladiator in their first fight. Once he stopped holding back, Gladiator was beaten. Keeping spinning all you want, but what it comes down to are Gladiator's own words admitting defeat, "I did my best, but he's too strong."


Thor didn't hold back his durability. And when he cut loose he didn't ko Gladiator either. Tarene did.

Gladiator looked stronger than Thor by a long shot.

Too strong to kill. Not too strong to KO in two punches.


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              And Thor straight up said that he could never beat the hulk in Fear Itself. Like Hulk says "Puny god".

          Geez, he was being sarcastic! After Hulk agreed, Thor said, "Did you now," and then knocked him into orbit.

      And collapsed while Hulk was totally fine. And there was no hint of sarcasm in that sentence.

    Because you don't know how to read and interpret as we've learned over and over in this thread. Also, you know Thor was fighting a powered-up Hulk and a powered-up Thing at the same time. The powered-up Thing had beaten Red Hulk in a previous issue. And this Hulk's power "was greatly elevated." Yet Thor beat Thing and knocked Hulk to the other side of the Earth.

Yeah, yeah, we know that Thor was fighting both. It was good feat for him but him admitting he could never beat Hulk wasn't for an amped Hulk.

Yep, Thor knocked Hulk away. That's all he is good for.


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Heh, that statement wasn't for amped Hulk, no matter how you spin it.



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