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Subj: Re: he beat Zonuz, Darkseid father with Source manipulation powers, in the NU52
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 at 04:07:05 am CST (Viewed 297 times)
Reply Subj: Re: he beat Zonuz, Darkseid father with Source manipulation powers, in the NU52
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 at 10:33:35 pm CST (Viewed 250 times)

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    you're accusing me of doing the same thing you did, comparing two different stories and settings and calling them the same; i fail to see where it was said that Yuga Khan was killed by Darkseid. It only said that his son took power after him. He was trapped in the Source, reason for which Shazam, who takes the 6 gods powers throught the Source itself, was the way he thought to come back. Darkseid never fought him one on one, he knew better than try.

Yuga Khan was killed by Darkseid in Justice League 23.1

The scene you posted of Yuga is from post crisis, this is new 52 Yuga Khan.

    The powerset of Shazam, from how it's been stated now to be, is to take the power of 6 patron gods through the magic name SHAZAM, kind of like Diana used to get the gifts of her patrons gods before she was revealed a demi goddess herself (all gods ultimately get power from the source Godwave anyway). so it's perfectly in line with the character to use such powerset. Also Magic is a big part of it, since the Rock of Eternity is a magical nexus and at times he has absorbed into himself all magic.


Power Set of Shazam isn't having six gods power in New 52. Get your facts correct.

nope, in Justice League 23.1 Darkseid betrays and syphons the powers of the Old Gods when they die or when he kills them, and Izaya gets the rest gifted to him so that they are evenly matched. No mention of his father Zonuz is ever made. Also, it's a story in which he later goes around the multiverse killing all the Supermen he meets, so it doesn't help make your point now, right?

And if the difference from post Crisis and New 52 is so important to you, why are you considering crossovers or pre/post crisis feats to argue your point?

And the power set of Shazam is DEFINITELY to have the power of 6 gods gifted to him through his magic name. it is still his power, it's just the blink caused by a Gods death disconnected him from them and he had to take on new ones.

i agree with you that there could be an argument that this SHAZAM is leagues stronger than his previous version considering he used to be a peer of Superman normally when his strenght and Stamina came from Atlas and Hercules, but now he gets his strenght from S'iva,

 the old god that Superman and Orion had to face to save the universe from his dance of destruction to buy time for Darkseid and Yzaya to sacrifice themselves to the source to appease it.

the one that they (once they were made so big that they could overshadow planets thanks to the Boomtubes) combined couldn't beat and had to BFR by using their EP to cauterize reality after pushing him out.

but since he lost flight and speed, i would expect him in this form to be a peer again in the end, all things considered.

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