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motifian

Member Since: Sat Jun 10, 2017
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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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Subj: Re: Ultimates 100 Spoilers
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 at 07:59:21 am EDT (Viewed 61 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Ultimates 100 Spoilers
Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 at 01:44:47 pm EDT (Viewed 71 times)



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      You just lost all credibility with that excuse. Carol didn't say anything about the shield not being weakened. It had just been hit by Rocket Raccoon's null bomb! The issue devoted four pages to the null bomb for a reason. Instead you're assuming Quasar doubled in power after being in a coma and the null bomb did zip to the shield.

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      Double negatives don't make a positive. There is no mention of the shield being weakened when Spencer went out of his way to let the readers know that the shield was still at full power.



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    Spencer did not write anything in the comic that states the shield is still at full power after the null bomb. You just made that up like you do all the time on this board.


When the shield was weakened he stated it pretty clearly previously. Here it wasn't shown, Ergo the shield wasn't weakened.

I don't have to prove a negative.


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      Carol explained that she had a rest and that's the reason she destroyed the shield. Not that the shield was weakened.



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    So anyone who has some rest can double their maximum power? Nice try.


According to the comic, apparently yes.

I don't have to convince you to prove it.


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      Nearly free doesn't means that they were freed. Only when the dark celestials were destroyed they were freed.



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    Correlation is not causation. I address this in another post in this thread.


We'll see.


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      But that's besides the point. Galactus got punked. Like usual.



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    Galactus got punked by the equivalent of the Living Tribunal. Real surprise. I'm sure you just thrilled.


So Tiger God or Black Panther are above LT?


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          But to think Black Panther can do anything to someone stomping Galactus is even more ludicrous.

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          It's not ludicrous in the realm of metaphor.

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        Yes, it is.



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    You think that because you can't comprehend what Ewing is trying to do in the comic.


Of course. Only marvel fans can do so.

/sarcasm


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    Tiger God is the one who is shown beating Logos.

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        Again, wrong. Black Panther specifically states, "The power of the Tiger God allowed me to ascend to this plane -- a guide and shield -- but the power I wield now is my own on this level... combat is metaphor. And I am the king." So Black Panther's power disassembles Logos, not the Tiger God's.

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        So are you saying Black Panther is more powerful than Galactus? Because Logos easily defeated Galactus a few issues ago.

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      In the realm of metaphor where battles are not physical and whose rules are ambiguous, Black Panther can do something that Galactus can't. You want to call what Black Panther did to Logos a fight, but it's not really. Black Panther frees Logos' captive component parts with the equivalent of sneaking up on Logos. What you're doing is reading the issue the way you want it to read as opposed to what is flat-out stated, that T'Challa is using his own power. How can you dispute that? Did Al Ewing write those words randomly according to you?

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      So Black Panther straight up manhandles Logos but did so by sneak attacks?

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        You're not even consistent among your excuses.

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          But do let us know how black panther is more powerful than Galactus.



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          You apparently didn't understand any of what I wrote.


        It was incomprehensible from such a genius.

        /s


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            Busiek showed Dormammu less than nothing to Eternity.

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            And yet we've seen Dormammu give Eternity a good fight in one instance, and in another, with a tilt of the universal axis, beat Eternity.

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          Dormammu was less than nothing to Eternity. He was only able to usurp Eternity by bathing in its blood and gaining power.



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          Nope. Dormammu simply stated that the cosmic axis tilting enabled him and Umar's powers to combine and together they beat Eternity. Also, if Dormammu were less than nothing to Eternity, than why did Eternity need Dormammu's help to beat Zom? Zom points out that Dormammu was instrumental in his loss.


        You're combining two different comics.

        Busiek showed that Dormammu was nothing to Eternity. Dormammu and Umar were only able to beat him due to bathing in his blood.

        Zom instance is decades before that and far less relevant.


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          His energy wasn't destroyed. It was just shunted to Asgard by Odin.

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          Did you even read the story?


        Yes, did you?


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          I don't know which story you're referring to, but I'm just going by your logic, which makes no sense. Obviously Odin is not going to shunt energy to Asgard in a way that would destroy Asgard.


        He just shunted the energy to empty Asgard. Nothing more.




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          It has been Reiterated several times that the whole realms are just continental level. Blame marvel.



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          No, I blame you for misunderstanding. Each of the Nine Realms is its own dimensional plane. It's not called the Nine Continents.


        Yes, pocket dimensions. Not whole universes.


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          Third, you obviously don't understand what hyperbole is. Depicting all these characters stating what they are actually observing is not hyperbole. So you're saying the Silver Surfer, Doctor Strange, the Dark Gods, and Jean Grey were all lying.

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          They were not lying. Just exaggerated notion of the damage caused. Just like in Silver age and not to be taken seriously.



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          Or more precisely, you have designated yourself arbiter of what is and isn't valid in comics based on nothing more than your personal desires. It doesn't work that way. This is not a Silver Age comic. What the characters observe are pretty specific. The only reason you dismiss it is because it goes against your argument.


        No, I haven't. I just know writer inconsistency and hyperbole when I see it.

        If Seth was multiversal or even universal he wouldn't need Yggdrasil to destroy nine realms or struggle against Loki.


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          Seth couldn't even beat Thunderstrike with bloodaxe who destroyed him. Odin struggling with him isn't a high showing for Odin.



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          Are you deliberately lying now or are you that confused? Seth is a death god. His normal power level is theoretically around Pluto's and Hela's though in actual showings, it's probably a bit less. So first, Seth at his normal power level isn't close to Odin. That's the version Thunderstrike beat here. Second, Thunderstrike was much empowered by the Bloodaxe here, enough that he gave Thor a tough fight in the very next issue. Third, Seth was powered up when he fought Odin. So this example is misleading on every level.


        Seth wasn't powered up against Odin.

        Wow, Thor level? That must be multiversal level, huh?

        Can you show us where Seth was shown to be amped against Odin?



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