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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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motifian

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Subj: Re: How powerful do you rate the Silver Surfer?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 at 04:29:08 pm EDT (Viewed 87 times)
Reply Subj: Re: How powerful do you rate the Silver Surfer?
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 at 12:16:53 am EDT (Viewed 123 times)



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      Okay, so Surfer can just generate Kryptonite to beat Superman. It's an even easier win then.



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    He knew about Gladiator's weakness. He doesn't knows that about Superman.


Are you kidding me? Surfer would sense the weakness right away, the same way he senses it in Gladiator who is a Silver Age Superboy clone.


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      I haven't read those issues, but in a direct head-to-head matchup with Quasar, Surfer first claims to be more powerful than the Quantum-Bands and then Quasar can't even energy drain the Surfer to a degree sufficient for the Surfer to even notice.



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    Being more powerful doesn't means you're more skilled.


I didn't say anything about skill, just that Surfer is a higher level energy manipulator; whether that is by skill or power is irrelevant. In a direct comparison, Quasar can't remotely drain the Surfer. That contradicts your claims about the Ego showing. If Surfer already houses more power than Quasar can drain, then how can Quasar contain more power than Surfer?


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        Parasite, Kyle and Atom all have feats putting them ahead of Surfer in energy manipulation.



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      Only when they are in a powered-up incarnation; otherwise, nope. Can a normal Parasite, Kyle, and Captain Atom manipulate energy to disable all machinery on Earth?



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    That's energy manipulation? This is energy manipulation. Kyle contains an entropic quantum singularity.


Kyle "contains" a singularity. That's measly compared to making one as Surfer from his own energies as he does here:





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    Further, Surfer has failed to stabilize a dying red sun on his own.

Wow, you do realize that Surfer's attempt is interrupted when he's attacked from behind! Your own scan puts a big asterisk on your own claim.


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    While even blue lanterns have stabilized dying red suns easily.

Parasite, Kyle and Captain Atom are not Blue Lanterns! If I'm arguing Spider-Man is more powerful than Captain America, you saying Hulk is more powerful than Spider-Man is completely meaningless to the debate.


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    And even a total noob Tom Kalmaku recreated all of Oa and its advanced tech from scratch by a GL ring.


I haven't read this story so I don't have the full context, but on the face of it, it screams plot-induced stupidity. I almost never resort to claims of bad writing to dismiss a feat, but it's nonsensical that a GL ring can recreate Oa and its power battery, which itself should be far more powerful than a GL ring. If a GL ring can do that, Hal should have been able to recreate a permanent Coast City after it was destroyed. A city is nothing compared to a planet. And after Oa got destroyed again by Relic, why didn't any single Lantern just recreate it? So basically, you want to represent a one-off total outlier feat as normal.




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