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Subj: Sorry, but after about 2002, GL output doesn't impress me much when up against herald levellers
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 at 07:02:01 pm EDT (Viewed 225 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Becomes a pretty even fight
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 at 01:03:16 am EDT (Viewed 239 times)

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    Surfer's EP is still superior, but it's a lot closer. Ring allows Supes to counter energy drain or kryptonite radiation, enough that it's a non issue.

Surfer doesn't has EP superior to Superman much less Superman+GL ring.

    Supes is a little stronger and may have a combat speed advantage. I think this goes like Thor vs Surfer....Supes wins.

Superman is a lot stronger and faster than Surfer on his own.

    Actually it's worse. GL ring durability + Supes means you won't be able to hurt him.....Surfer is in trouble

Well, that's about it.

unless you're dealing with Ion or something, no GL is anywhere near as powerful as Surfer in terms of energy projection. Nor is Superman. His HV is powerful, but not on Surfer's level.

Note that Surfer has at least one tactical speed feat that is easily high end flash level, though that is not the norm. Speed is unlikely to be a decisive factor.

Power output of this Superman would be very similar to Surfer's. But, Superman could more effectively protect against energy drain or kryptonite radiation. Stacked durability means Surfer would have a hard time hurting him, and in a lot of cases, durability wins fights...so Supes becomes the favorite, but only really because of his durability.

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