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Subj: And that's the problem
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 at 07:50:06 pm EDT (Viewed 216 times)
Reply Subj: she has more than one feat, but certainly didn't consistently show higher end strength
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 at 04:09:55 pm EDT (Viewed 220 times)

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Faith also has some pretty good showings, but they're kind of interspersed around the show.

Glory seemed impressive though, bringing down a building with a stomp of her foot puts her into the MU brick categories, but she was substantially stronger than Buffy.

My understanding is that it was more consistent in the comic, but in general, she can break through brick walls easily, bend jail cell bars, shatter statues with her bare hands, lift a large I beam easily, and have sex forcefully enough to literally bring down a house.

Cap has a few feats at about the same level, and WAY more appearances in which to showcase his strength. Blue Beast is in the 2-5 ton range, and got OWNED by peak Human Cap in a fight during Infinity Crusade. I put Buffy in that Beast range, definitively stronger than Cap, but not necessarily by a lot. A good showing might have her as high as 4 or 5, with her top feats being similar to some of those by 70's TV Wonder Woman, but usually she seems closer to 1-2 ton range, but maybe some of that is motivation or whatever...there's always some inherent inconsistency in comics as well.

BUT, thats why I think its clear she's not as strong as 70's TV wonder woman...WW has a good feat about every episode that matches Buffy's best. TV Hulk did too, with a few that were substantially above even that, though hard to quantify. Steve Austin had similar level feats regularly, but is only about half bionic, half normal, so overall, Buffy might well be his superior, though that bionic arm might be able to pack more punch than she can...his non bionic isn't competitive.

because Buffy's average strength from episode to episode was mostly punching Vampires and/or throwing them. Only occasionally did we get to see either a low end feat of strength or the rare high end one. Her low end feats outweigh her high end ones and were seen more consistently than her high end strength feats. If we average all that out, then Buffy comes squarely as Cap level, maybe a bit stronger, but no where near 3 to 4 ton strength that your trying to give her. No where near it.

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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