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Subj: Re: Was she really all that?
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 at 02:00:29 am EST (Viewed 105 times)
Reply Subj: Was she really all that?
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 at 11:59:25 am EST (Viewed 113 times)


    She took out the Imperial Guard, after they had a fight with the X-Men. She had eaten a start. As it was, the X-Men wore her down afterwards.

    Was this more impressive than Sentry, Thor or Silver Surfer (who stated kinship to her, if I recall)?

    Phoenix was supposed to be the X-Men's Thor.

Well, as I said, I think this is really an issue of feat inflation and how much stock you put into it. Dark Phoenix fought the X-Men and the Imperial Guard because that's where the story took her.

Dark Phoenix was stated by multiple sources, including herself and the Silver Surfer (what a weird cameo) to be a universal threat. That's kind of the reason she needed to die. Thor's not so unbelievably powerful that he needs to be killed off to prevent universal damage. Dark Phoenix was.

The fights she did win, she won without any real risk of losing. In the end, she only lost because Jean herself was fighting with Xavier. And that was a temporary victory - hence leading to the suicide sacrifice.

Because she could not be beaten by outside forces, her powers and the entire arc was essentially a plot device, driving the story. What we see is not intended to be the height of her power, but we do get hints. We see her open space/time portals, fight Xavier on multiple levels of existence, SS states she could be a threat to the cosmos, etc.

I just don't believe Wanda was ever intended to be at that level. Wanda struck me as a planetary level threat - possibly solar system - but not universal.

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