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Subj: Re: Was she really all that?
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 at 04:20:08 pm EST (Viewed 124 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Was she really all that?
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 at 02:00:29 am EST (Viewed 188 times)

    Dark Phoenix was stated by multiple sources, including herself and the Silver Surfer (what a weird cameo) to be a universal threat. That's kind of the reason she needed to die. Thor's not so unbelievably powerful that he needs to be killed off to prevent universal damage. Dark Phoenix was.

    The fights she did win, she won without any real risk of losing. In the end, she only lost because Jean herself was fighting with Xavier. And that was a temporary victory - hence leading to the suicide sacrifice.

    Because she could not be beaten by outside forces, her powers and the entire arc was essentially a plot device, driving the story. What we see is not intended to be the height of her power, but we do get hints. We see her open space/time portals, fight Xavier on multiple levels of existence, SS states she could be a threat to the cosmos, etc.

    I just don't believe Wanda was ever intended to be at that level. Wanda struck me as a planetary level threat - possibly solar system - but not universal.

Agree with your statements on Dark Phoenix, but not on Wanda. Wanda's power - actually retconned to her tapping into the power of life itself in Avengers: Children's Crusage - was at a universal level. Still, there are two things to note about Dark Phoenix. First, the entirety of her depiction in the Dark Phoenix Saga is before she reached her peak power. Her power was growing "geometrically" as time passed, but she hadn't reached it by the time of her death. Second, the Watcher called her power second only to that of TOAA in Uncanny X-Men #137 for what it's worth.

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