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Subj: Re: Hela Facing Karnilla!
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 at 05:24:38 pm EST (Viewed 138 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Hela Facing Karnilla!
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 at 04:53:57 pm EST (Viewed 153 times)

    1. Are death gods particularly smart? I mean does Mephisto come off as much smarter than typical super villains? Not really. He's still a jobber.

If we are assuming that all death-gods are alike in intellect, that is a bonus for my position. Seth has a super-genius intellect, is a master of genetic engineering, and employs some of the most advanced magic-science in the multiverse. Worldengine, a scientific attack on the World Tree, was brokered by Seth.

The difference is that Seth is ambitious and uses his resources to that bend, whereas Hela is largely content in her station.

    2. Does Hela even meet the requirements of BEING a goddess? She is not an Aesir. As I understand it her parents going by the myths are Loki (a Jotun) and Angrboda (another Jotun). She is not descended from Buri. She had no god blood. She is the child of frost giants.

It's basically meaningless trying to split hairs between Jotunn and god, due to their shared lineage. Bor was born a half-Jotunn. Odin himself has the blood of Jotunn (his mother was a Jotunn). Ymir and Buri, the first god, sprung from the same environment in Asgardian cosmology. Thor is 2/3rds Jotunn when you consider that Jord (Gaea) is considered a Jotunn.

    3. Has Hela shown she is super intelligent in any way?

She has shown the awareness of being who controls an entire death-realm. The ability to see through illusion, bend time and space, and pluck Thor out of the time-stream with casual effort (in effect, cosmic awareness).

If the contention is that Karnilla is smarter, you're also going to have to provide evidence to that end. Rather than assumption that Karnilla is self-made.

    4. She was just given the power. Karnilla had to work for her sorcery.

Okay. What does that prove? And we really don't know what Karnilla did for her sorcery. She is connected to the Fates in some way. Is that how she lucked out on her power? And she could have stolen that knowledge and absorbed the power of whoever taught her. After all, Loki did.

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