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motifian

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zvelf

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Subj: Re: Darkseid vs Wonder Woman: WW 36 spoilers
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 at 09:06:15 pm EST (Viewed 332 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Darkseid vs Wonder Woman: WW 36 spoilers
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 at 12:33:37 pm EST (Viewed 456 times)



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          She was exerting herself in a fight where she doesn't even gets hit?
        She is struck twice while in bondage.
      She was just faking injury and broke out of the chains easily. If she was injured it was never stated or shown.



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    So you're saying Grail and Jason are so weak they can't hurt a Wonder Woman who is their captive?


Hurt? Yes. Weaken her. No.


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          And Darkseid wasn't trying to kill her. It was blindsided but that was inconsequential in the fight.
        Why is it inconsequential? She is smoking and slowly getting up all the way to the point right before she charges. How is that different from Surfer and Thanos as discussed below? In the example of Surfer, the blast doesn't seem to have taken anything out of him and he is still casually almost beat to death.
      Because in that instance Thanos was actually trying to kill Surfer. Here Darkseid isn't.



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    So the only time an attack can really hurt someone is when it's meant to kill? Nonsense.


You need show us where that weakened her. She is weaker when Darkseid drains her only.


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        It is also pretty contrived that the second blast from Darkseid is not even attempted to be deflected by the bracelets even though she has done so against a fully adult Darkseid in the past as well as almost every energy attack against her.
      So?



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    So Darkseid was fighting a vastly weakened Wonder Woman courtesy of his blindside and her immediately battling Grail and Jason beforehand.


Where is that suggested that Wonder Woman was weakened much less vastly weakened?



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          And no "fight" does not suddenly means matching someone when the league lost to Darkseid repeatedly and only managed to push him away.
        The context overwhelmingly implies that as a team, they are able to challenge him effectively and they do actually prevail.
      No, Batman straight up said that Cyborg was their only shot. He actually oneshots the whole league by one energy blast and then koes Superman, beats Hal easily and dismissed Wonder Woman.



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    You're conflating two different fights. Darkseid ko's the team the very first time they meet when the JL doesn't know who Darkseid is or what he's capable of. Basically, they are caught off guard. Once they are prepared in the final fight, they fight him equally and most of this fight is with Superman absent. Darkseid doesn't ko a single JL member in this final fight. Also, the context of Darkseid's statement is that it took the entire Justice League to fight (match) him last time, so Wonder Woman by herself doesn't stand a chance. The statement is plainly the author's intent to measure up Darkseid (he's = to the JL) in comparison to Wonder Woman.


Darkseid didn't ko Superman and defeated Hal while breaking his hand?

Batman said to Cyborg in the last fight that he was their only shot.

No, it only means that the League was needed to fight Darkseid. As was written.

Your bias is once again showing.


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      At no point the league was able to even look competitive.



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    Yeah, Wonder Woman plunging her sword into Darkseid's face and blinding him while laughing doesn't look competitive at all.



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And they basically said it did nothing to Darkseid at all on the very same page.



Way to crop the scan though. They even ask what they can do and they conclude that the only thing is to send him to Apokolips.
Around the same time Thor dropped Odin to his knees with one mjolnir shot.
That was Fraction Odin who was probably the most powerful he had been since Lee-Kirby era.



Darkseid wasn't even bothered by a sword and a trident to his eyes.

I'm still waiting for why DC Zeus is "far less powerful" than the Marvel skyfathers BTW.


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