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Bk Ray

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Subj: Lets have a look at this then
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 at 03:23:28 am EST (Viewed 605 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Using the JLA and Avengers as guidelines is silly
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 at 03:40:23 pm EST (Viewed 630 times)

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So do you accept that Venom is above Superman, Storm is above Wonder Woman, Wolverine is above Lobo, Thor is above Captain Marvel (Batson), Spider-Man is above Superboy, Silver Surfer is above Kyle, etc. etc.?

Superman and Thor fight as equals with Superman barely winning. Even Busiek confirmed this both in dialogue and in comments. Superman fought a rage handicapped Hulk. Hulk and Superman stalemate in Stern's book (isn't everything canon now in DC?).

Venon vs Superman is not a 'who will win between these iconic characters' fight. It dictated the plot.

Wonder Woman had undergone substantial psychological and biological changes seconds before the fight.

Thor couldn't beat Billy in a straight up melee, as it was, it cost him the use of Mjonilor

Surfer SHOULD beat Kyle.

Spiderman himself said he couldn't beat Superboy, he lucked out where Superboy ko'd himself.

Wolverine and Lobo fought off panel.

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