Wow, that was one of the dumbest things I've ever read. If you're injured, you are weakened. It's as simple as that. When a player in a team sport is hurt/injured, they get subbed out. Obviously it impacts their performace, i.e., it WEAKENS them.




Are you kidding me? Darkseid blindsides Wonder Woman with omega beams leaving her on the ground for an entire page full of dialogue while smoke is rising from her back. If she weren't weakened, she would get up immediately. This is why I'm loathe to debate you because I have to explain the most obvious, simple things to you, leaving me feeling like I'm lecturing a Kindergartener. And notice you avoided answering why the only time someone can injure someone else is when they're trying to kill them, which is a preposterous response in the first place.






Again, you're conflating a different fight from the final fight. In the final fight, once the Justice League had taken Darkseid's measure and understood who they were dealing with and thus, no longer surprised, they were matching him. And so no, in the final fight, Darkseid didn't ko Superman or defeat Hal.

Except Batman's not actually fit to evaluate the situation. Batman only comes through the boom tube on the last page of actual fighting and then makes that statement about 10 seconds later. He didn't see Wonder Woman and Aquaman blind Darkseid. He didn't see the League giving as good as it got throughout the entire final fight.


Again, your interpretation skills leave a lot to be desired. Hal says, "A sword and a trident through the eyes, and he's still standing?" That doesn't at all say they did nothing to Darkseid. It actually says they did a lot. The rhetorical question is stating that the League hurt Darkseid so badly and he's still standing?



I didn't crop it on purpose. It was just the first image that popped up on a Google search and I used it. And as I pointed out, the rest of that page doesn't support that Darkseid was uninjured but rather the opposite.

"Only"? Funny how that word doesn't appear anywhere in Cyborg's statement. Hal asks what else they can do and Cyborg gives him one option. If the League didn't have that option, would they just give up? Of course not. They would think up another.


Huh? What? What does this have to do with the Darkseid fight? Talk about trying to distract by going off on a tangent when you're losing a debate. So yeah, Thor sucker punches Odin and knocks him down. So what? Odin is a few hundred pounds. We've seen Thor lift billions of tons. You act as if this is how a Thor-Odin fight would actually go when Fraction does show how an Thor-Odin fight actually goes: Odin wins easily. That this happens right after the page you posted demonstrates you purposely being misleading.And in other confrontations, it's the same:
I mean, we've seen that if Odin wants to, he can remove Thor's power at any time.

Okay. Going by your own standard, I guess Zeus ain't all that because Wonder Woman knocked him down.But that's not my standard and not the basis of my claim. We've seen that Zeus is vastly weakened just by overcoming Circe's magic and sending Hermes to Earth.



And the Son of Vulcan can just steal Zeus' spirit.

Zeus has also been killed by Ares who himself has been killed by Wonder Woman.