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motifian

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 12,543
Subj: Re: Credibility revealed
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 at 10:08:33 pm EST (Viewed 143 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Credibility revealed
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 at 12:28:40 am EST (Viewed 229 times)



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      I never said Thor is more powerful than Odin. The rest are just you whining.



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    You have already written in this thread that Odin is a weakling and you think Thor beats Odin in a fight! You have no credibility.


Could you show us where I said Thor is more powerful than Odin or would beat him in a fight?


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        I am extremely amused.
      I'm sure you are.



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    Indeed, I am about to be even moreso...


Are you a masochist?


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        I am even more amused.
      Concession accepted.



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    Desperation to see concession where there is none accepted.


You failed to produce any argument. That is a concession in itself.


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        Uh, no. I stated the exact opposite - that Thor can lift billions of tons so knocking down someone who weighs a few hundred pounds isn't particularly indicative of anything. Of course when I pointed out when Wonder Woman knocked Zeus on the ground with one blow and was standing over him, you said that meant nothing, completely displaying your hypocrisy on the matter. Now by YOUR own logic, DC Zeus is a weakling.
      Thor didn't just knock Odin down, he had Odin on his knees.

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        Zeus wasn't on his knees like Odin was.



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    I see. So according to you what direction you get knocked down in determines whether you're a weakling. If you fall forward, you're a weakling. If you fall backward, you're not. Wow, what other laughably ridiculous laws of fight depictions can motifian come up with?


No, if you are on your knees after just one hammer shot from Thor, you are a weakling.

Isn't that what you used against Darkseid?


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        It definitely is not, but I don't try to act like I'm infallible and I admit my mistakes when I am wrong instead of doubling down on it like you leading to absurdities like you having one standard for Odin and another for DC Zeus.
      I'm using the same for both. Unless you can show me Zeus being on his knees from an attack from Diana that is.



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    Yes! Doubling down on the knee defense! I love it.


You should. You started it after all.


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      Zeus only lost his memories in the river. He was as powerful as ever.

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      It's too late. You can't admit to being deliberately misleading on this example and then continue to do so as if you didn't already admit it. You have no credibility.

    Too late for what? What part of this is misleading?


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            Giving Typhon the power to deflect the offense of his opponents against themselves is a huge power up!
          Only kinetic energy. And he killed Zeus physically.
        Do you know what kinetic energy is? Again, this was a Zeus who was in the form of a human child, with the word "human" emphasized in the issue, who had lost his memory and had no experience with his power.
      Yes, I know what it is. Do you?

    Are you a fifth grader by any chance? So let's look at your claim that the Aegis armor isn't significant. It creates an impenetrable force field, absorbs energy directed at it, and can redirect that energy against the attacker:

Are you in kindergarten? Aegis only gave the wearer to redirect kinetic energy. Not all energies.

And Zeus was not a human child. He was regressed in age but he was still a God.


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      Zeus had regained his memories. Hence why he was screaming that Typhon killed his wife.



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    No, you're just flat wrong. Here are the scans explicitly showing that Zeus had not regained his memories. "In your new form, you don't remember," Hera tells Zeus. Then child Zeus and Hera both attack Typhon and again the comic explicitly shows the Aegis armor deflecting their attacks back on them, killing Hera. You're wrong and prove again and again, you have no credibility.


Are you sure you can read? Zeus then regains his memories and screams at Typhon that he killed his wife


It's like a life saving mantra for you at this point that I have "no credibility". I don't care at all about your approval for credibility.


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                So you're accusing me of ignoring context when you just used an example to imply Hercules > Typhon > Zeus while ignoring that Zeus was not normal Zeus, Typhon was amped by the Aegis, and that Hercules used amnesia water to win. Wow.
              Exactly. Just giving you your own medicine.
            Okay, from now on I will note why you lack credibility by pointing out you purposely and consciously used an example you knew was misleading. And also having a 4-year old's understanding of ethics.
          Heh, how does it taste when you get a dose of your own medicine?
        It feels great that I can always point to direct evidence of you purposely using examples you know are misleading. You've always been doing that, but this time you admitted to it.
      What misleading? Everything I said happened exactly in comics.

    You were trying to show that Marvel Zeus wasn't that powerful by saying Typhon beat Zeus and Hercules beat Typhon while ignoring that this wasn't normal Zeus but amnesiac human child Zeus, that this wasn't normal Typhon because he was powered up by the Aegis, and that Hercules didn't beat Typhon with his own power but used the waters of Lethe. If that's not misleading, I don't know what is. And then you claimed that Zeus had regained his memories when he had not, which is plainly stated in the scans above. You have no credibility.

Wrong on all accounts. Zeus wasn't a human child, he was still a God. Typhon didn't use Aegis to kill Zeus and Hercules physically killed Typhon by bashing his head in after giving him amnesia.

Your whining is pitiful at this point.



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              Also, I don't hate DC at all. Some of my favorite characters are DC characters, and anyone who's been on this board for a long time knows I'm a huge fan of Power Girl, Cassandra Cain, Black Canary, and Watchmen.
            Yes, you do. It'd clear for anyone reading your posts.
          Then you haven't really read my posts. If I’m so biased against DC, why would I make posts promoting DC characters like this:
        If you didn't hate DC characters, you didn't have to explain yourself.
      Huh? That makes no sense. Obviously you think I hate DC characters, which I don't, so to demonstrate that to you, I pointed out clear examples in which I speak well of DC characters. Why would I speak well of characters I hated?
    You've obviously never heard of reverse psychology.

Hmm, obviously I know what it is better than you. Please explain how my posting good things about DC characters for years and years on this board works as reverse psychology.


Have you tried googling it? I've heard it's quite useful.


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      You're transparent man.
    So are you.

Wow, you're so confused, you're responding to your own insults as if they were directed at yourself. You wrote both of the above lines. I am amused.

You're quite transparent in your hate about DC characters. How is that being confused?



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      Thor has given Odin more fights than Superman has given to Darkseid. Yet, you don't count them against Odin.
    I wonder why.

Odin usually dominates Thor in a way that Darkseid does not dominate Superman.
Flat out wrong. We can compare their fights if you want.



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      I am not going to explain how I love Marvel and how Odin is my favorite character because he isn't.

    No surprise there.


Of course.



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        Nonsense. You just can't tell the difference between supporting who should win in a fight and supporting who you like as a character. Knight, for example, is someone who can clearly make that diffentiation.
      Knight is Bizarro you though. Trying to lowball the characters he/she likes as to not look biased.

    No. We both try to be as unbiased as we can in evaluating fights even when they involve our favorite characters. We may not always succeed, but we try. You, however, try to put over your favorite, evidence be damned. It's just distort, distort, distort.

You're unbiased? Don't make me laugh. You're the biggest Odin and marvel fanboy here.



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        But answer this, which skyfather in DC can at least get 6/10 against Odin in a fight.
      It depends on how you define skyfather. Certainly DC's top powers like Mxyzptlk, Spectre, more recent Nekron can.
    They are not skyfathers though. Imps are not skyfather level.
    They are abstract levels in power.

As I said, it depended on how you define skyfather. Spectre is all over the place and sometimes is skyfather level, sometimes even lower. Nekron is also all over the place and sometimes below skyfather level.

By that definition Odin is below herald level sometimes.

Whenever Spectre has encountered marvel characters, he has looked beyond characters like Galactus. He was even shown as peer to LT.

Nekron is a legitimate death abstract. You might as well call Presence a skyfather level character in your marvel zeal.



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    And you yourself said Odin was more powerful than Spectre in another thread.

I never said that. Wow, just outright lying now. Modern day Spectre, on average is more powerful than Odin, but Spectre has had showings in which he appeared less powerful than Odin's average.
Are you sure? Because here you straight up said that.


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    Spectre (whoever is the host) varies between 40-200 but is usually on the lower end
    Exitar 150
    Odin 85



http://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?rpy=comicbattles-2017061217314117&layout=thread

What is this average of Odin you are talking about?




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          Which top tier can get 6/10 against Thor and Silver Surfer.
        Thunderbolt. So why don't you tell me which top tier Marvel characters beat Superman a majority of the time?
      Thunderbolt is definitely not a top tier. He is an imp and half of his self defeated and imprisoned Spectre and was warping entire universe.

    Thunderbolt has long been a member of the JSA. Interesting how Thunderbolt and the JSA didn't instantly beat every villain Spectre level and below in all those years. So tell me which top tier Marvel characters beat Superman a majority of the time?


Because he is bound to a human host. It has nothing to do with power.


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    By the way, Abhijit / Abhilegend, you know you're not supposed to use two different aliases here, right? And I just found another instance in which you lack all credibility: when you stated a bomb that destroyed one fifth of the universe wasn't that powerful:



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    https://www.comicboards.com/php/show.php?rpy=comicbattles-2017021000483936&layout=thread


I'm not sure what you are talking about here. Are you really this desperate?


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