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motifian

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Braugi

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Subj: Re: debatable....
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 at 09:12:34 pm CST (Viewed 377 times)
Reply Subj: debatable....
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 at 01:49:37 pm CST (Viewed 336 times)



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    Hyperclan were all Martians, does that mean Superman level...I don't think any but the strongest martians are really as strong as Supes, for instance.


In that arc, Martians were specifically stated to be as fast and strong as Superman. It's not true for every appearance though.


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    Zum was likely faster, but in general, I'd put them all physically inferior to Superman...though likely superior in strength to all but Ultimus, Gilgamesh, and maybe a powerfully written Ikaris


That's not what the comic showed.

https://i.imgur.com/KL3qDtD.jpg


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    Yet, Thena's EP could well be among the best in the MU. Eternals can survive being blown apart and atomized. Sersi showed her psi was on par with an amped Exodus (who was still able to withstand a blindside telpathic assault from Professor X), and her transmutation and illusion were better than her psi. She was able to amp her strength to handle Hercules (though he may not have been immortal at the time...the timeline of when he was at half strength eludes me).


That's hardly their average showings. Super skrull has straight up beaten Sersi. She was totally useless against Hulk.


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    Ultimus is certainly top tier overall. Gilgamesh as well, and probably more durable than any of the Hyperclan. Sersi more powerful as well, though not a physical powerhouse. Makkari pre speedup vs. Zum would be a pretty even fight IMO...post speedup he'd have the speed advantage, but still lose IMO.


How is Gilgamesh any more durable than Hyperclan? For that he needs to be tougher than Superman too.

Sersi isn't more powerful than J'onn.