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motifian

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
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zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 12,163
Subj: Re: Credibility revealed
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 at 11:15:18 pm EST (Viewed 135 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Credibility revealed
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 at 11:36:23 pm EST (Viewed 141 times)



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          There are so many problems with all of your misleading statements above, I don't know where to begin. Suffice to say, the context about Wonder Woman, not Darkseid (note that the original thread title is "Darkseid vs Wonder Woman: WW 36 spoilers"), and even your own quote says that Odin only beats Thor by depriving him of Mjolnir and with Mjolnir, Thor beats Odin. So you still have no credibility.
      You still haven't read the whole quote, have you? Try reading it again.



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    I notice you can't muster any defense except to be as vague as possible because you know I'm right.


I have already shredded every single argument from you.

I don't do defense here.


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        No. I already showed you where the comic states it does more than that. Here is the scan yet again. Funny how in this very thread you state, "We go by what's on panel, not what most people think." This is what's on panel, but you're going by what you think instead. Your hypocrisy never ends.
      And I showed you how it was directly stated to be able to redirect kinetic energy only.



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    The word "only" was never used. The Aegis redirects energy AND produces a force field. Of course you don't think that amps the wearer, another sign of your lack of credibility.


There are no statements regarding it able to channel Zeus lightning.

You're simply making it up like always. Such a sign of credibility.


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        What's that about going with what's on the panel? Here is what's on the panel: "human child." And he was an amnesiac human child with no experience with his powers. Of course that makes him less powerful. Who is more powerful, someone with thousands of years of experience with those powers or someone who has no experience with those powers?
      Typhon trying to demean Zeus by calling him a human child doesn't makes him a human child.



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    Except that's not what Typhon was doing. Typhon's full line is, "And I ask you, Zeus, if you could not hide from me as a goat kid, what makes you think I will show you mercy as a human child?" Again, I ask you, who is more powerful, someone with thousands of years of experience with those powers or someone who has no experience with those powers? You're going out of your way to avoid my question is just exemplifying how badly you're losing this debate.


Yes that's exactly what he was doing.

Zeus was as powerful as ever. Experience doesn't increase or decrease power.

You've already lost the debate when you conceded that Zeus was as powerful as ever.



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        That has nothing to do with Zeus being an amnesiac human child at the time before his death. I already posted all the scans between the time Hera explicitly stated Zeus had amnesia right up to the point before Typhon killed him and at no point in the comics did anything happen that would give Zeus back his memories.
      Of course it does. It shows he was still a god and had his full power which was then transferred to Athena.



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    Again, the debate isn't whether Zeus has his power, which I've always stated that he does. The debate is whether Zeus is more powerful in his regular form with all of his experience using that power than in the body of a human child with amnesia. You're saying regular Zeus is not more powerful, which is absurd. Being able to use your power well makes you more powerful than someone who can't use that power well.


Yes, it is. Just because you are running away doesn't means it's not about power.

Zeus was as powerful as ever and was throwing lightning bolts like usual.

There is no evidence that he was less effective than usual.


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        You have no credibility because you deny what's right there on panel while demanding that what's on the panel be the only evidence.
      You're describing yourself kiddo.



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    Except that I've been supplying evidence of you doing so throughout this thread. You make the accusation of me but can't supply diddly squat.


The exact opposite happened here. Don't worry, I'm not judging you by the way you lost here.


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            You actually don't know how Typhon killed child Zeus because it happens off panel, but we saw the Aegis deflect Zeus' lightning, so already that's the Aegis helping Typhon kill Zeus in that it gives him defense against all of Zeus' energy projection. It also redirects physical blows as it did to Hercules, so it also blocks all of Zeus' physical attacks.
          Because Zeus wasn't having his head blow up like Hera and was shown dead physically.
        That sentence makes no sense. Hera's head getting blown up is her being shown dead physically.
      No, it's by an energy blast.



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    You're still not making any sense. What is your point?


What's yours? Typhon didn't kill Zeus with Aegis.


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        The waters of Lethe made Typhon forget he had the Aegis so he didn't use it. Just moments earlier, Hercules tried to club Typhon and the Aegis reversed the blow, injuring Hercules severely. Will your attempts to mislead never end?
      Hercules bloodied Typhon even with Aegis.



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    All you're doing is repeating yourself with something I already disproved.


You didn't disprove anything but your ability to read.

Hercules bloodied Typhon with Aegis before Amnesia.


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      And Typhon didn't need Aegis to beat Zeus in ancient times when he ran away.



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    Wrong. Typhon said Zeus was afraid of him and fled, which means they didn't fight. However, in the story, when Typhon did fight Zeus in ancient times, Zeus won! See how you mislead yet again?


Typhon had defeated Zeus and hence he ran.

Zeus only trapped Typhon under Mount Edna. We have no idea of the fight before that.

You're doing misleading here.


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      You tried to argue that Hercules only gave Typhon amnesia, will your excuses for Marvel skyfathers never end?



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    Another misleading statement. I never said Hercules "only" gave Typhon amnesia, but that certainly helped Hercules to win. You're the one pretending Hercules beat Typhon straight up, which is just wrong.


Yes, you did. It's all here buddy.

So Hercules killed Typhon who is feared by Zeus and Zeus couldn't kill him by himself, right?


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        Normal Zeus is. Of course your choice to use a human child amnesiac Zeus as an example is misleading. Your choice to pretend Typhon was normal Typhon when he was powered up with the Aegis is misleading. Your choice to pretend Hercules beat Typhon with his own power is misleading. Of course you admitted you were being misleading on purpose here too. So you have no credibility.
      So normal Zeus is only top tier and not a skyfather? Good to have your concession kiddo.



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    Zeus is a top tier skyfather.


No, you said yourself that Zeus was top tier.

No going back from that homie.


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          Or perhaps I'm simply mocking you.
        So you admit to violating board rules? So you admit to having no class? Argumentum ad hominem usually arises when you failed in every other respect.
      You're accusing me of using aliases and I'm violating board rules?



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    You just stated you were being deliberately mocking. What do you think?


And you accused me of using aliases. What do you think?


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      Have you by chance read any of your posts regarding Odin? Read them and it will be cleared why you don't have any credibility.



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    Funny how you can't provide any specifics.


How about all of your posts regarding Odin.


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        Wait until you read his racist quotes.
      Wait, racism is allowed here?



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    When the moderators don't catch it. Figures you'd think racism is harmless.


Where did I say anything like that?


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      He was only pushed through a door. It's not worse than Logos getting stomped by Black Panther or most cosmic hierarchy getting beaten by an alternate Reed Richards.



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    You take those fights completely out of context. However, in the Wonder Woman + Witchfire vs. Nekron fight, the narration reads, "Wonder Woman batters at Nekron and when he clouts her away, Witchfire is there with a barrage of searing runes, and when she too, is swept aside, Wonder Woman is back taking the brunt of his attacks giving Witchfire time to recover." Your great abstract Nekron can't ko either Wonder Woman or Witchfire while they can drive him back and back against Nekron's will as he screams, "No! I will not... will not be..." and loses.


Just like Logos was stomped in one panel by Black Panther.

Nekron was only pushed through a door.

How about Black Bolt killing all celestials.


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      But you concede that you haven't read much of DC for making the claim that Nekron wasn't powerful before. In his very first appearance he gave Krona enough power to destroy universe.



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    You're being misleading again. I didn't say Nekron wasn't powerful before. I said that he wasn't always written as powerfully as Johns writes him. My Wonder Woman example speaks volumes.


There he was only partially summoned and his station was mentioned too.


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      Have you actually read about what lower range means?



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    You just hate it that I proved you wrong again.


No, I am amused how quickly you backpeddled.


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            So you deny that you posted on these Alvaro boards before as Abhijit?
          Are you a moderator all of a sudden? What's the reason for this?
        You're refusal to answer the question answers the question.
      So you're straight up accusing me of being a sock? Is that so? Because I will take this with mods further.



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    Please do and reveal yourself.


You're only digging yourself further now.


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