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Subj: Was it stated that Doom had full access to the Beyonder's power?
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 at 03:43:02 pm EST (Viewed 303 times)
Reply Subj: Re: So, Phoenix Force with full power has less power than the power of multiple Beyonders that Dr. Doom had?
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 at 03:22:22 pm EST (Viewed 415 times)

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    Phoenix Force with full power has less power than the power of multiple Beyonders that Dr. Doom had?

I didn't say the Cyclops had the full power of the Phoenix Force. I don't know how much he had, but whatever it was, it was less than the power of multiple Beyonders. I'd guess even the full Phoenix Force though is less powerful than multiple Beyonders.

    What about single Byeonder, you said that the full power of Pheonix Force might be above single Beyonder and Infinity Gauntlet?

It's just my speculation. The Phoenix Force is the resurrection force and is part of the creation of new universes after old universes die. The Watcher called the Phoenix Force "a primal force second only to that of the creator." And the Phoenix Force seemed to be beyond even the original Secret Wars Beyonder:

    What about Beyonder vs. Infinity Gauntlet?
They appeared pretty equivalent in their showings against respective opponents. The comics have been a bit contradictory though and in some depictions, the Infinity Gauntlet has shown the limitation that it only works in one particular universe. The Beyonders don't have that limitation. On the other hand, the Beyonders have a weakness to time manipulation and the Infinity Gauntlet has the time gem.
    And what about heart of tthe universe-is that even cannon anymore?

I don't know if it's canon.

    What about Phoenix Force vs. Living Tribunal, if 3 Beyonders were ablet o kill Living Tribunal-the real deal I wonder...
It's unclear.

    And again what about heart of the universe vs. 3 Beyonders or vs. Pheonix Force-all at full power? Or Heart of the universe vs. Phoenix Force and one Beyonder-all at full power?

It's unclear.

I think it was, but I can't find confirmation anywhere.

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