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Late Great Donald Blake

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Subj: But you don't think Namor isn't at least somewhat of a speed bump?
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 at 10:30:19 am EST (Viewed 216 times)
Reply Subj: Re: JSA vs Defenders
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 at 08:08:01 am EST (Viewed 221 times)

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      Dr Fate, Captain Marvel, Green Lantern: Alan, Black Adam, Hawkman, Flash: Jay, Hawkgirl, Wildcat


        Dr Strange, Hulk, Silver Surfer, Namor, Nighthawk, Moondragon, Valkerie, Hellcat

    This is always an interesting close fight.

    Round 1:
    Fate and Strange really depends on which Fate. The most powerful versions of Fate win due to superior durability so I'll say Fate here.
    Captain Marvel and Hulk goes on for a long time.
    Surfer beats Alan.
    Black Adam beats Namor.
    Hawkman beats Nighthawk.
    Moondragon beats Jay.
    Valkyrie beats Hawkgirl.
    Wildcat beats Hellcat.

    Dr. Fate's in bad shape after his first fight but he still edges Valkyrie.
    Hulk and Captain Marvel keep at it.
    Silver Surfer edges Black Adam but is in terrible shape.
    Moondragon mind whammies Hawkman and Wildcat.

    Silver Surfer and Dr. Fate double ko.
    Moondragon helps Hulk beat Captain Marvel.

Surfer is not beating Alan, Black Adam and then fighting Fate to a double KO back to back. I'd be very surprised if he is shown to beat Alan alone in a Defenders comic.

Adam would destroy him if he goes past Alan in a fight.

I see it the same way as zvelf basically, with the exception that after Surfer beats Alan and Adam beats Namor, I think the Surfer-Adam fight could go either way. But yeah, I think you're underestimating Namor. I see him as just under top tier strength but only barely, and he's a ferocious fighter. I think Namor loses because he's at a speed disadvantage and a small strength disadvantage, but I think he makes it a fight. Incidentally, Namor is usually shown to be immune to electrical attacks (for some reason) so I think another of Adam's primary weapons is neutralized, and the fact that his electrical attacks wouldn't work might take him off guard and give Namor a momentary advantage. Black Adam probably beats him into submission eventually, but I think Adam's way wobblier than you're letting on. So this is really just a tired Surfer vs a tired Adam fight in my eyes. And there's also the fact that Surfer can basically will himself to recharge if he needs too. Could go either way, in my opinion.

---the late great Donald Blake

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