Subj: It was me, about the ManhunterPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 at 03:23:56 pm EST (Viewed 52 times)
Reply Subj: If someone beats Superman they must be a powerful dude too though...
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 at 02:15:14 pm EST (Viewed 63 times)
But if Thanos lost to Thor without extenuating circumstances, it would be a downgrade (at least from post Death powerup Thanos)....though he seems to be getting downgraded a bit these days anyway.
Its not that Darkseid is a wimp if beaten by Superman, its that there has been enough precedent on a lot of these showings to say that Darkseid is not substantially above Superman or Orion, and by extension, Captain Marvel etc. And I seem to recall some Jonn Jonzz love vs. Darkseid as well, but I can't for the life of me remember where.
If you don't believe those guys are all substantially above Marvel top tiers, then that makes Darkseid very beatable. He's not a wimp...it takes someone at the top end of the hero spectrum to beat him, but its questionable who is the underdog in such a matchup.
In Legends, He approaches Darkseid and threatens him. There is some plot line why Manhunter can't attack him and Darkseid revels in it without denying he would be a threat.