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Knight

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Urban Cowboy

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Subj: Re: Its not the size of the dog in the fight; its the size of the fight in the dog
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 at 07:53:46 pm EST (Viewed 79 times)
Reply Subj: Its not the size of the dog in the fight; its the size of the fight in the dog
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 at 08:26:16 pm EST (Viewed 223 times)

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I recently saw that saying used in a youtube match-up where the speaker compared two marvel characters. In my opinion Batman as more fight (in this sense of the word) in him than Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, etc. In recent times Aquaman has come close.

But using Batman as a baseline, him being with him being 100, where would you put other DC or Marvel characters?


For example,

Batman: 100

Aquaman: 95

Nightwing: 90
Wonder Woman: 90

Superman: 75
(I'd have Captain America near here too.)

Cyborg: 70



How about the Flash, Thor, Iron Man, Black Panther, Spiderman, Hawkeye, X-Men, Fantastic Four, JSA, rest of JL, etc.?

This isn't who would win in a fight, or who has the most fighting skill, just who has most "fight" in them.




A case can be made to give Superman a 100 as well. He never gives up and just keeps going, no matter what hits him. When John Henry Irons died, he went through a LOT just to make sure the man got resurrected. And Clark would do anything for Lois, no matter what he has to go through to get it. He even fought for 1,000 years in Valhalla with Wonder Woman against a demonic horde, never giving up even though he thought Lois was long dead. I've seen him literally be able to endure that which broke Batman (See The Emperor Joker storyline for more details...or ask me and I'll tell you). Of course, it all depends on the story and what the writer intends as I have seen Superman give up too easily.






It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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