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Subj: Re: Thanos vs. Darkseid (one last time!)
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 at 08:08:40 pm EST (Viewed 366 times)
Reply Subj: Thanos vs. Darkseid (one last time!)
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 at 02:02:23 pm EST (Viewed 451 times)

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I noticed something I never saw before, but in the DC/Marvel crossover, there's actually a small art piece showing Darkseid and Thanos matching eye beam for eye beam, neither having any advantage. Their fight is mostly off panel but throughout the series, it was unquestionably implied that their fight was more than just some brief encounter. People point out that Orion's loss to Surfer carries weight because it represents an author's (John Byrne's) interpretation of how the fight would really happen despite not being canon, yet we see here that the same logic points to Darkseid and Thanos being evenly matched.

I don't know why people point out Orion's loss to Surfer, are they willing to accept the logical consequences?

Some people will come up with some of the most "interesting" excuses. And I am being nice by saying "interesting".

Some of them include things like what you said, plus:

"That feat occurred 30 years ago, it no longer counts."

Of course, I've used that too and this excuse "does" have at least some merit, but it doesn't work for every character nor for all debates. I've also heard:

"Is the character's feats consistent? They aren't? They don't count."

"This character is not a team buster, he's only done it once. It's an outlier and to be ignored."

"This character has no lifting feats so he is NOT stronger than my favorite character." (Despite the fact, said character has beaten other characters capable of beating his favorite character, with the scans to prove it).

"Does this character do this kind of feat consistently over the course of time? They don't? They don't count." (This excuse makes people justified in claiming Superman cannot fight or does not know how when he CAN fight)

"She demolished that guy!"

"No she didn't, all she did was hold him by the throat."

"Did you read the issue? She BEAT him!"

*Shows Scan that clearly shows otherwise* "No, she didn't. She did not win that fight!"


I can go on and on with the endless excuses but you get the point. So, it sounds like these guys with Orion and Silver Surfer are just trying to make excuses here.

Now, to answer your question: Thanos DEMOLISHES Darkseid in a real fight. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?
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