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Subj: This guy knows what he's talking about it
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 at 07:52:56 pm EST (Viewed 95 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Thanos vs. Darkseid (one last time!)
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 at 02:29:00 pm EST (Viewed 136 times)
Quote:Sure. The thing is that when you're trying to measure Darkseid vs. Thanos, you have to take everything into account.
Exactly! And this is what I do when I think on who would win. I like Darkseid a whole lot more than I do Thanos. And originally, I did say Darkseid wins this fight until someone corrected me with proof that Thanos wins. Then I did research on the two characters and compared their feats. And frankly, Thanos has more impressive feats than Darkseid does.
Quote:Both characters have had showings all over the place, but certainly some showings are more memorable and prominent than others. Darkseid has both beaten and lost to Superman, DC's most prominent or second most prominent character. In two cases, Superman flat out beat Darkseid cleanly with Darkseid admitting he lost. Another time, Superman got a save from Wonder Woman's vambraces against Darkseid's omegas, but after that, Superman went on to beat Darkseid convincingly. Given all of these instances and that Doomsday also humiliated Darkseid, it's hard to see Darkseid as significantly more powerful than Superman.
Until the New 52, Darkseid was only marginally more powerful than Superman in turns of raw power and strength. And he was like that for decades. One of many reasons why I rate Darkseid below Thanos.
Quote:Thanos has also had good and bad showings. He's shown he can beat Adam Warlock easily, that he could probably take down Thor and Thing simultaneously (and this was before he got a notable power up upon his resurrection), that he could keep up with Odin for a time, and he's beaten the Annihilators. On the lower end, he struggled against Drax, Nova, and Peter Quill in the Cancerverse, he's lost to the Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy combined, and while in a weakened state, Thanos lost to the Shi'ar Imperial Guard. Thanos has never lost to a Superman-level foe in a straight fight though and that should count for something.
Couldn't agree more. Especially your last sentence.
It's interesting that a hero/villain performs one amazing feat, or use a power they haven't used for 20+ years, and that automatically propels them to a high status despite scans and evidence to the contrary. I don't know what is worse, selective feat picking that has only been done once or twice 20, or more, years ago or ignoring evidence from scans or the lack thereof. We need to stop putting our favorite heroes/villains on pedestals and start putting them where they really belong. But it's evident that people never will because they would rather accuse others of cherry picking feats, when they don't, and being 'morally superior' when they aren't. I guess being honest and as fair as possible only opens one up to being the target of childish accusations and fault finding by those who insist on acting petty and childish. What happened to a good debate between two civil, mature, adults?