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Primetime

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motifian

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Subj: Re: Another Battle Scan: Superman vs. Darkseid: Action Comics #586
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 at 10:47:22 am EST (Viewed 67 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Another Battle Scan: Superman vs. Darkseid: Action Comics #586
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 at 08:00:41 am EST (Viewed 59 times)

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      Uh-huh. So if Ka-Zar fighting Thanos is included in Ka-Zar fighting real Thanos TPB, it unretcons Starlin doing so?



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    It indeed would unretcon Starlin's doing so, but of course Marvel wouldn't do such a thing because pretty much everyone agrees that story is terrible and should have been retconned. Sometimes there are good retcons.


Well then, you're quite in luck then because it is shown as such.

https://mobilestore.marvel.com/Ka-Zar-by-Mark-Waid-and-Andy-Kubert-Vol-2/digital-comic/46891

Nowhere is it said that Thanos in this TPB is a clone.

So now we have three heroes who have defeated Thanos one one one, Kyle, Ka Zar and Squirrel Girl.


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      Darkseid getting hit by his own omegas is hardly a fair fight. Superman himself said if omegas hits him, he is done for.



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    Of course it's a fair fight. In the Avengers movie, Iron Man absorbs Thor's lightning to amp himself to 400% thus using Thor's own power against him. Is that somehow unfair? Similarly, if Superman can use his speed and evade Darkseid's attack and then reflect it back on Darkseid, that's perfectly fair. That this keeps happening to Darkseid in fight after fight practically indicates that Darkseid's omegas aren't all that effective. As for how damaging they can be, they are all over the place. Sometimes they do nothing to Superman or Power Girl, here taking two shots, punching one of them away.



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No, it is not. It shows Superman can't beat Darkseid on his own and has to use Darkseid own power against him.

If you have any scan of Superman beating Darkseid without Darkseid getting hit by his own omega beams, do post them.

Ka-Zar faced a clone and does not even defeat it head to head. The attached image is the last contact made between the two. Does the clone looked defeated?

The clone was "defeated" by the terraformer being blown and blown up by a missile fired by someone other than Ka-Zar.

So no, Thanos has yet to be defeated straight up by a top tier hero.


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