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Subj: incidentally, I'm not really leaning on the handbook, we know explicitly that after Moondragon killed him
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 10:15:36 am EST (Viewed 85 times)
Reply Subj: Classic Drax smashed planets, and was listed as class 40, your point?
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 09:27:01 am EST (Viewed 88 times)

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I put He Man in the same ballpark as classic Sasquatch (when he was being given great showings), slightly above Thing, She Hulk, etc. and right around Wonder Man/Ulik level. I also consider Wonder Woman in this ballpark.

She Ra moved a moon, not sure when He Man did, but I also think He Man is a little stronger than She Ra.

He also struggled to overpower Clawful and others, who in turn struggled with human levellers like Teela.

Yes, he did well against Pre Crisis Superman, but there are multiple versions of the character, the old Star comics version, the cartoon, the modern comics version, and the DC miniseries and crossovers.

All in all, I don't see enough evidence putting him on the true top tier list, but enough putting him on the next tier down. I think Abomination would be measurably and demonstrably stronger, but not overwhelmingly so, and I think He Man's brains and skill would have him beat Abomination, even without using his sword.

when he was brought back brain damaged, he was significantly stronger. This stronger version, Dumb Drax, with the Power Gem was clearly shown as a peer to the top tier strongmen of the time...Thor and Merged Hulk, and repeatedly compared to Hulk in terms of strength in the Infinity Watch books.

So, while a class 40 ranking was low, and class 50 is likely too low for Firelord (though Firelord could presumably have been amping his strength with his good strength showings) we know explicitly that classic Drax was not a peer to Hulk, Thor, or Hercules in the strength department...yet he has among the best feats and ratio of uber strength feats to overall showings in comics, and I can't actually think of poor strength showings (like Hulk's python showing).....

My point is feats are....mediocre evidence if its all you have. He Man and She Ra both have a few really good feats, but none better than Classic Drax. He Man needed to draw more power from Grayskull to throw the castle in an episode too, though its interesting to note that he was able to do so through telepathic contact with the sorceress.

Its really hard to figure out where they match up with characters from other universes though, even the DCU where they've had some crossover. That said, my general impression (and to be clear, I have watched every episode of He-Man and She Ra, both original and the He Man re issue in 2002 multiple times, and read every issue he has appeared in....MOTU was my ATF as a kid, and when my kids were born, they've grown up watching He Man and She Ra constantly) is that they are more in the 'Wonder Woman' league (which I have a lower opinion of than most on the boards...I think she's at best a borderline class 100).

So yeah, I put He Man somewhere around class 90. He might be more 95 to borderline class 100, but is, IMO somewhere in that Classic Sasquatch to Wonder Man ballpark. At worst, he's Thing level, though probably not generally portrayed as durable as Thing.

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