Comic Battle >> View Post
·
Post By
zvelf

Member Since: Sat May 17, 2008
Posts: 9,492
In Reply To
motifian

Member Since: Sat Jun 10, 2017
Posts: 1,173
Subj: Re: Another Battle Scan: Superman vs. Darkseid: Action Comics #586
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 01:00:21 pm EST (Viewed 37 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Another Battle Scan: Superman vs. Darkseid: Action Comics #586
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 05:55:16 am EST (Viewed 53 times)



    Quote:
    Not in that TPB published by marvel AFTER infinity abyss.



    Quote:
    By your logic it's not applicable.


You mean your total distortion of my logic. The Ka-Zar trade, as per my statement, is NOT named Ka-Zar vs. Thanos and nothing in the trade indicates any change in retcon status. However, putting a Superman-Darkseid fight whose retcon is already ambiguous at best, into a collection titled Superman vs. Darkseid as the first story and the story that takes up the most space in the entire collection is DC taking the stance that this is indeed Superman fighting Darkseid in this story and not Superman fighting Desaad.


    Quote:

      Quote:
      It's part of Superman's flight and speed that he can lead Darkseid's omegas right back to him.
    It's affect are not part of Superman's powers. Thus invalidated. Try again.


So anytime anyone uses their environment to their advantage in a fight to win, they didn't really win? So anytime anyone takes control of Mjolnir and hits Thor with it, that person didn't beat Thor? Your made-up criteria is nonsense. Superman redirecting Darkseid's own attack back onto him is completely fair, Darkseid hasn't looked unduely affected by that attack in these fights, and Superman went on to beat Darkseid with his own fists.


    Quote:

      Quote:
      That's ridiculous. That's like saying an interception doesn't count in football when the quarterback throws a bad pass.
    Sorry man, comics are not football.


The analogy nevertheless stands.


    Quote:

      Quote:

        Quote:
        Darkseid's powers are depleted akin to a short circuit when hit by his own omega beams. It's not a question of durability.
      You just completely made that up!
    Nope.


Quite the rebuttal there with no proof whatsoever. So yes, you just completely made that up.


    Quote:

      Quote:
      Darkseid states right here that his intent is to kill Superman with the omegas, so yes, with full power, and Superman takes Darkseid's most powerful attack repeatedly and never goes down in this fight.
    In AOS 595? Darkseid was weakened.


Wrong. Darkseid was weakened later by Brainiac 13.


    Quote:
    Darkseid stunned Thor who was unable to move and had to be handed mjolnir from Diana.


Right, Thor was just briefly stunned by the attack, not ko'd, and Thor also showed he could block the omegas earlier in the fight.


    Quote:

      Quote:
      Darkseid's omegas did absolutely nothing to a hungry Galactus who then casually blasted Darkseid away.
    Galactus was saved by his essential nature to reality. Otherwise a few giants powered by a fraction of Darkseid's power overpowered Galactus.


Again, you're just making things up. Nothing in the comic says anything about Galactus being saved by his nature. Galactus simply acts as if nothing at all happened. And Darkseid's giants knock Galactus over, but he just ignores them as he has the Silver Surfer fight them instead and the Surfer handles them all by himself.


    Quote:

      Quote:
      And Orion has also killed Darkseid.
    Not under his own power. He was sent by the source to kill Darkseid.


Being sent and being given power are two different things.


    Quote:

      Quote:

        Quote:
        That's more than either Odin or Thanos can claim regarding these characters.
      Wrong. The only time Odin has fought Surfer, Odin one-shot Surfer, and unlike Darkseid, it wasn't a total blindside.
    So?


So? You just wrote that Darkseid blindsiding Surfer was more than Odin can claim regarding Surfer! So... you're wrong!


    Quote:
    There was no indication Surfer could survive a direct attack from Darkseid if he knew the attack was coming. Darkseid also overpowered Galactus using a fraction of his power creating a few giants.


Surfer is known for his speed. He could dodge the omegas just as well as Superman can and even then, Surfer could just put up a force field to block the omegas. Since Superman's heat vision can do it, Surfer's force field can do it. Galactus, who was explicitly stated to be hungry and weakened, ignored Darkseid's giants, and the narration itself stated that Galactus getting staggered was of no consequence.


    Quote:
    Odin koed himself fighting Galactus.


And knocked Galactus out in the process. Darkseid unleashed his ultimate attack on a weakened, hungry Galactus who completely shrugged it off and blasted Darkseid away like a gnat with Darkseid needing Orion to lift up the rubble under which Darkseid was buried.


    Quote:

      Quote:
      Odin holds back when he fights his son for obvious reasons.
    He was trying to kill him possessed by Infinity and when he was convinced he was Amon Ra. He failed to even ko Thor both times.


Odin has beaten Thor numerous times easily.


    Quote:
    Squirrel Girl and Kyle Rayner have defeated Thanos straight up.


In your desperate dreams.




Posted with Mozilla 11.0 on Windows 7
Alvaro's Comicboards powered by On Topic™ © 2003-2018 Powermad Software
All the content of these boards Copyright © 1996-2018 by Alvaro Ortiz and Dave Galanter. Software Copyright © 2003-2018 Powermad Software