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Subj: Re: Another Battle Scan: Superman vs. Darkseid: Action Comics #586
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 01:00:21 pm EST (Viewed 70 times)
Reply Subj: Re: Another Battle Scan: Superman vs. Darkseid: Action Comics #586
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 at 05:55:16 am EST (Viewed 89 times)
Quote:Not in that TPB published by marvel AFTER infinity abyss.
Quote:By your logic it's not applicable.
You mean your total distortion of my logic. The Ka-Zar trade, as per my statement, is NOT named Ka-Zar vs. Thanos and nothing in the trade indicates any change in retcon status. However, putting a Superman-Darkseid fight whose retcon is already ambiguous at best, into a collection titled Superman vs. Darkseid as the first story and the story that takes up the most space in the entire collection is DC taking the stance that this is indeed Superman fighting Darkseid in this story and not Superman fighting Desaad.
It's affect are not part of Superman's powers. Thus invalidated. Try again.
Quote:It's part of Superman's flight and speed that he can lead Darkseid's omegas right back to him.
So anytime anyone uses their environment to their advantage in a fight to win, they didn't really win? So anytime anyone takes control of Mjolnir and hits Thor with it, that person didn't beat Thor? Your made-up criteria is nonsense. Superman redirecting Darkseid's own attack back onto him is completely fair, Darkseid hasn't looked unduely affected by that attack in these fights, and Superman went on to beat Darkseid with his own fists.
Sorry man, comics are not football.
Quote:That's ridiculous. That's like saying an interception doesn't count in football when the quarterback throws a bad pass.
The analogy nevertheless stands.
You just completely made that up!
Quote:Darkseid's powers are depleted akin to a short circuit when hit by his own omega beams. It's not a question of durability.
Quite the rebuttal there with no proof whatsoever. So yes, you just completely made that up.
In AOS 595? Darkseid was weakened.
Quote:Darkseid states right here that his intent is to kill Superman with the omegas, so yes, with full power, and Superman takes Darkseid's most powerful attack repeatedly and never goes down in this fight.
Wrong. Darkseid was weakened later by Brainiac 13.
Quote:Darkseid stunned Thor who was unable to move and had to be handed mjolnir from Diana.
Right, Thor was just briefly stunned by the attack, not ko'd, and Thor also showed he could block the omegas earlier in the fight.
Galactus was saved by his essential nature to reality. Otherwise a few giants powered by a fraction of Darkseid's power overpowered Galactus.
Quote:Darkseid's omegas did absolutely nothing to a hungry Galactus who then casually blasted Darkseid away.
Again, you're just making things up. Nothing in the comic says anything about Galactus being saved by his nature. Galactus simply acts as if nothing at all happened. And Darkseid's giants knock Galactus over, but he just ignores them as he has the Silver Surfer fight them instead and the Surfer handles them all by himself.
Not under his own power. He was sent by the source to kill Darkseid.
Quote:And Orion has also killed Darkseid.
Being sent and being given power are two different things.
Wrong. The only time Odin has fought Surfer, Odin one-shot Surfer, and unlike Darkseid, it wasn't a total blindside.
Quote:That's more than either Odin or Thanos can claim regarding these characters.
So? You just wrote that Darkseid blindsiding Surfer was more than Odin can claim regarding Surfer! So... you're wrong!
Quote:There was no indication Surfer could survive a direct attack from Darkseid if he knew the attack was coming. Darkseid also overpowered Galactus using a fraction of his power creating a few giants.
Surfer is known for his speed. He could dodge the omegas just as well as Superman can and even then, Surfer could just put up a force field to block the omegas. Since Superman's heat vision can do it, Surfer's force field can do it. Galactus, who was explicitly stated to be hungry and weakened, ignored Darkseid's giants, and the narration itself stated that Galactus getting staggered was of no consequence.
Quote:Odin koed himself fighting Galactus.
And knocked Galactus out in the process. Darkseid unleashed his ultimate attack on a weakened, hungry Galactus who completely shrugged it off and blasted Darkseid away like a gnat with Darkseid needing Orion to lift up the rubble under which Darkseid was buried.
He was trying to kill him possessed by Infinity and when he was convinced he was Amon Ra. He failed to even ko Thor both times.
Quote:Odin holds back when he fights his son for obvious reasons.
Odin has beaten Thor numerous times easily.
Quote:Squirrel Girl and Kyle Rayner have defeated Thanos straight up.
In your desperate dreams.
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